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[Misc] I’m giving up social care.. anyone else?







raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Yep, you do long hours. It takes it’s toll.

As for work with my SiA, there are a few options and a couple of definite roles I have been offered. One is a very new project between the police and a private security company that I’m very keen on.

Or I may just go and sit on my arris in an empty building. I’d like to semi retire at 50 so it’s all about raking in the money for me for a few years. I’d like to buy a live-aboard boat and spend my time exploring the inland waterways of the U.K. If I maintain my SiA license, I can work anywhere and move on when I feel like it. That’s the goal. I have no wife or kids to provide for so in that respect, it’s up to me.

I’d hesitate to go back on the doors of clubs and I would never do retail security again. Bit old for all that now. But I shall see what this company I’m talking to come up with.

Best wishes to you, Clamp. It can be really hard to make a change but you've made the first (and hardest IMO) step. Clearly, with your previous job , it reached enough-is-enough. It's organic change now, just feel your way forward and don't look back!
 


The Clamp

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Thanks all for your kind words and insights. As someone mentioned, it’s really not the work that gets to me. Although it can do at times.
There are too many incidents to recount but I recall one where a client was so drunk they lost their footing and went flying, smashing their chin on a door frame, cutting it down to the bone. I stopped the bleeding etc and then I waited for 6 hours for an ambulance. The numpty they had working nearby as my oppo didn’t answer the radio or phone for ages because he was having a fag outside. All the time I’m having to try and calm a woman who’s drunk 2 litres of neat vodka and still having to let her drink so she doesn’t seizure. She’s grabbing at my genitals, swinging between trying to kiss me and calling me a useless prick, all while lying on the floor, out of it.

The ambulance arrived, I got to go home and got deducted half an hour’s wages because in the roll of things I had left my phone at work and couldn’t clock out.

This sort of stuff happens all the time. CPR, cuts, self harm, attempts to take their own lives, abuse to staff, ex husbands, drug dealers, pimps turning up at the door, heroin overdoses, rape, kidnap, sex working/exploitation, bloody Albanian drug gangs at the door, males breaking in to get at the women, mental health, trauma, residents trying to stab me. It’s constant. And i don’t get paid enough for any of it.
It’s not the work, I signed up for that. It’s the way we are treated. I’m out and on to better things.
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Wiltshire
Good luck to you, the world needs more people who do things for others. And IMHO those people would be among the highest paid in our society.

I am on my way out of teaching, lots of people in education burning out over here in Australia. Not sure if this is what has happened to me but I have certainly had enough of working endless unpaid hours for no money and no recognition. I felt for years that it was a case of give and take what with the holidays/flexibility and some recognition of what we do. Seems like the give and take has become more and more a case of giving teachers more and more work and taking the ****ing piss.

And we have it could in comparison to teaching assistants etc.

Of course now the government are scratching their heads and wondering why people are leaving in droves.

Twats.

Some years ago Oz seemed the land of opportunity for many Brits (my brother lives near Perth, and is long retired now) - teachers, nurses, doctors, trades and so on. Now my brother tells me there's an acute shortage of nurses, and you clearly are feeling used and abused in the teaching profession, and city property prices seem equally horrendous there. Does it feel to you as if Oz has now joined the same mad 'level' as the rest of the 'West'? Genuinely interested in your opinion as you actually live there.
 


B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
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Thanks all for your kind words and insights. As someone mentioned, it’s really not the work that gets to me. Although it can do at times.
There are too many incidents to recount but I recall one where a client was so drunk they lost their footing and went flying, smashing their chin on a door frame, cutting it down to the bone. I stopped the bleeding etc and then I waited for 6 hours for an ambulance. The numpty they had working nearby as my oppo didn’t answer the radio or phone for ages because he was having a fag outside. All the time I’m having to try and calm a woman who’s drunk 2 litres of neat vodka and still having to let her drink so she doesn’t seizure. She’s grabbing at my genitals, swinging between trying to kiss me and calling me a useless prick, all while lying on the floor, out of it.

The ambulance arrived, I got to go home and got deducted half an hour’s wages because in the roll of things I had left my phone at work and couldn’t clock out.

This sort of stuff happens all the time. CPR, cuts, self harm, attempts to take their own lives, abuse to staff, ex husbands, drug dealers, pimps turning up at the door, heroin overdoses, rape, kidnap, sex working/exploitation, bloody Albanian drug gangs at the door, males breaking in to get at the women, mental health, trauma, residents trying to stab me. It’s constant. And i don’t get paid enough for any of it.
It’s not the work, I signed up for that. It’s the way we are treated. I’m out and on to better things.

Feck me. I don't consider myself a wimp, but I'd have quit that shitshow a long time ago. Hats off to you for putting up with it for so long.

Loyalty from your company is pretty non existent from the sounds of it and that just compounds the very obvious issues they have.

Nuts.
 






raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Wiltshire
Thanks all for your kind words and insights. As someone mentioned, it’s really not the work that gets to me. Although it can do at times.
There are too many incidents to recount but I recall one where a client was so drunk they lost their footing and went flying, smashing their chin on a door frame, cutting it down to the bone. I stopped the bleeding etc and then I waited for 6 hours for an ambulance. The numpty they had working nearby as my oppo didn’t answer the radio or phone for ages because he was having a fag outside. All the time I’m having to try and calm a woman who’s drunk 2 litres of neat vodka and still having to let her drink so she doesn’t seizure. She’s grabbing at my genitals, swinging between trying to kiss me and calling me a useless prick, all while lying on the floor, out of it.

The ambulance arrived, I got to go home and got deducted half an hour’s wages because in the roll of things I had left my phone at work and couldn’t clock out.

This sort of stuff happens all the time. CPR, cuts, self harm, attempts to take their own lives, abuse to staff, ex husbands, drug dealers, pimps turning up at the door, heroin overdoses, rape, kidnap, sex working/exploitation, bloody Albanian drug gangs at the door, males breaking in to get at the women, mental health, trauma, residents trying to stab me. It’s constant. And i don’t get paid enough for any of it.
It’s not the work, I signed up for that. It’s the way we are treated. I’m out and on to better things.

An even worse working environment than I could imagine from the start of your posts. Work such as that deserves at least twice minimum wage, plus 100% supportive management (not deduction of 30 mins pay, ffs) - very sad situation. You've done more than many/most in our society to help others, and now it's high time to help yourself, Clamp, 100% guilt free. Get that boat.
 


LamieRobertson

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Feb 3, 2008
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Yes and no. More tax income for the government is good but the government has to fund health, justice, schools etc properly.

Cutting subsidised meals and bars at Westminster would contribute towards the health budget, for example.

…hmm so he wants us to pay more (from afar) …great time to pick it…perhaps consider spending what we have better

To Mr Clamp all the best in your new chosen path
 




The Clamp

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I’m a lone worker and am supposed to get a welfare call once a night. The guy who’s currently paid to do them and be on-call for emergencies is also a driving instructor. Rather than a phone call he sends a pre-written WhatsApp to everyone and if you don’t reply? He doesn’t bother to chase it up to see if something has happened. Then he goes to sleep at work so he can do his day job.

Unbelievable really .

Anyway, I’m just moaning now and that’s no good to man nor beast. Looking forward to a new start, new colleagues and hopefully not too many night shifts!
 


The Clamp

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I don’t know how anyone could be a nurse on a ward. Apart from the work itself, they are so undervalued it’s beyond reprehensible.
 


Eric the meek

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Thanks all for your kind words and insights. As someone mentioned, it’s really not the work that gets to me. Although it can do at times.
There are too many incidents to recount but I recall one where a client was so drunk they lost their footing and went flying, smashing their chin on a door frame, cutting it down to the bone. I stopped the bleeding etc and then I waited for 6 hours for an ambulance. The numpty they had working nearby as my oppo didn’t answer the radio or phone for ages because he was having a fag outside. All the time I’m having to try and calm a woman who’s drunk 2 litres of neat vodka and still having to let her drink so she doesn’t seizure. She’s grabbing at my genitals, swinging between trying to kiss me and calling me a useless prick, all while lying on the floor, out of it.

The ambulance arrived, I got to go home and got deducted half an hour’s wages because in the roll of things I had left my phone at work and couldn’t clock out.

This sort of stuff happens all the time. CPR, cuts, self harm, attempts to take their own lives, abuse to staff, ex husbands, drug dealers, pimps turning up at the door, heroin overdoses, rape, kidnap, sex working/exploitation, bloody Albanian drug gangs at the door, males breaking in to get at the women, mental health, trauma, residents trying to stab me. It’s constant. And i don’t get paid enough for any of it.
It’s not the work, I signed up for that. It’s the way we are treated. I’m out and on to better things.

Total respect Clamp. I couldn't put up with all that stuff for years on end, and then get pay deducted because I forgot to follow some rule.

You will have many transferable skills to bring to your new work - empathy, patience, observation, attention to detail, calm when all those around you etc.

Enjoy the rest of your life.
 




B-right-on

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Apr 23, 2015
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Shoreham Beaaaach
A very sad story. But until tax payers in the UK are willing to pay more in tax nothing will change with health care.

We all know that taxes rises will have to happen and they'll get spunked on ridiculous and totally irrelevant projects, wasted in over priced and ripp off charges from 'favoured' govt suppliers (owned by their mates or brother-in-laws) or in paying back the enormous debts (owed to mega rich bankers).

The only thing that's going to change it is a 'crises' like the truck drivers one. It could be predicted a long time before knowing there's not enough drivers, but until the country ground to a halt, the govt did SFA about it. Got a mate who's doing the HGV Class 1 training for free at the moment.

When the 'healthcare crises' hits, they'll be a mandatory min wage in the sector, lots of money spent on recruitment and training to solve it.

In the meantime you'll have over 600 council employees earning more than the Prime Minister, some earning 4x his wages.

It's all pretty f'd up.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Some years ago Oz seemed the land of opportunity for many Brits (my brother lives near Perth, and is long retired now) - teachers, nurses, doctors, trades and so on. Now my brother tells me there's an acute shortage of nurses, and you clearly are feeling used and abused in the teaching profession, and city property prices seem equally horrendous there. Does it feel to you as if Oz has now joined the same mad 'level' as the rest of the 'West'? Genuinely interested in your opinion as you actually live there.

It is certainly heading that way. I feel like it has fallen in line to a certain degree with the way other countries do things. Not quite to the same level as yet and hopefully we can switch things around.

Having said that the trades are thriving over here as there is a huge building boom to accommodate the rising population. Trades and mining are doing well.
 






Barrow Boy

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Yep, same in teaching. TAs earning next to minimum wage but nowadays are regularly asked to cover classes etc due to not being able to afford cover, take groups (usually of the lowest achieving children)... being a TA is far more than putting up displays, reading a story, for such little pay

Exactly the situation my eldest daughter is in, she is a TA in a Brighton Primary school and regularly finds herself standing in for Teachers. The school has to take a percentage of children with special needs and my daughter spends nearly all her time with an Autistic child (who she loves) providing virtually one to one care. What with COVID and trying to get the school operating 'normally' all while earning minimum wage has put so much strain on her she is now suffering with mental and anxiety problems. Coupled with trying to live on her own in Brighton has now proved impossible and she is moving back in with Me and my wife, which means she will have to give up her TA job and try and find employment in the Worthing to Portslade area.
 


stewart12

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Jan 16, 2019
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I work for a great charity in Brighton. We are looked after really well and are encouraged to work with strict boundaries to avoid burn out

and the pay is decent for the sector

we have 2 vacancies at the moment, PM me if interested
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Exactly the situation my eldest daughter is in, she is a TA in a Brighton Primary school and regularly finds herself standing in for Teachers. The school has to take a percentage of children with special needs and my daughter spends nearly all her time with an Autistic child (who she loves) providing virtually one to one care. What with COVID and trying to get the school operating 'normally' all while earning minimum wage has put so much strain on her she is now suffering with mental and anxiety problems. Coupled with trying to live on her own in Brighton has now proved impossible and she is moving back in with Me and my wife, which means she will have to give up her TA job and try and find employment in the Worthing to Portslade area.

The very first thing I would do to improve school systems would be to put more TAs in classrooms, raise the profile of the work they do and pay them their worth. These people are the key to improving education IMHO. Unfortunately what I see here in Australia is their skills being wasted with tasks such as cutting and laminating. Skilled people who are invaluable to both the children they help and the rest of the class.I hope your daughter gets the recognition she deserves.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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We all know that taxes rises will have to happen and they'll get spunked on ridiculous and totally irrelevant projects, wasted in over priced and ripp off charges from 'favoured' govt suppliers (owned by their mates or brother-in-laws) or in paying back the enormous debts (owed to mega rich bankers).

The only thing that's going to change it is a 'crises' like the truck drivers one. It could be predicted a long time before knowing there's not enough drivers, but until the country ground to a halt, the govt did SFA about it. Got a mate who's doing the HGV Class 1 training for free at the moment.

When the 'healthcare crises' hits, they'll be a mandatory min wage in the sector, lots of money spent on recruitment and training to solve it.

In the meantime you'll have over 600 council employees earning more than the Prime Minister, some earning 4x his wages.

It's all pretty f'd up.

Sadly you are correct. It's all well and good raising taxes but then, as you say, you do also need a government to spend it appropriately! And yes, it is a mess.
 




The Antikythera Mechanism

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I’m a lone worker and am supposed to get a welfare call once a night. The guy who’s currently paid to do them and be on-call for emergencies is also a driving instructor. Rather than a phone call he sends a pre-written WhatsApp to everyone and if you don’t reply? He doesn’t bother to chase it up to see if something has happened. Then he goes to sleep at work so he can do his day job.

Unbelievable really .

Anyway, I’m just moaning now and that’s no good to man nor beast. Looking forward to a new start, new colleagues and hopefully not too many night shifts!

I really hope that you get the break and good fortune that you deserve
 




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