Blackcap
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Oh do f off.
The exact words that entered my head when I saw the thread title.
Oh do f off.
Blimey! I've just remembered my grandfather was an Oddfellow. Will I be saved?my garndfathers gas mask and a tin foil hat.
Don't you realise, can't you see?
You're all going to die..............die, you're all going to die.
Is anyone gullible enough to believe this crap?
on slow phone so cant post links but theres no point - most of the symbolism is esoteric, a word lost on too many here. to understand esoteric symbols takes time - only the inner self can do it - and then match these up to patterns and events pfff not on here ... Lets just see what happens in the first two weeks of august. Maybe taking special note of any days israeli competitors are not at the stadium.
Er...wrong crest...try this one...
The image I posted was the MI5 crest from 1950's to 1970's.
I like the new one though too. The rose is the national flower of England. But it has other meanings too. The Rose was the emblem of the Egyptian God Horus (Interestingly the "one eye" symbol is called the eye of Horus).
In Rome a wild rose would be placed on the door of a room where secret matters were discussed. The Latin phrase "Sub rosa" means "under the rose", which means to keep a secret. "Sub rosa" is a term used today in respect of covert operations by security services.
According to Wiki: More recently, "sub rosa" activities have become a byword for covert operations, usually by security services. Originating primarily in the Canadian and American special forces, this meaning has been gradually spreading to other countries and in particular the United Kingdom.
So this contemporary crest also contains occult (Latin - Hidden) symbolism.
I am unsure of what your point is. That a rose that symbolises secrecy is used on the Mi5 logo? Thats not the ocult!
Occult is from the Latin Occultus which means hidden (or secret).