Heart and Soul
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Ajax fans are no different from other fans in the sense that they have a lot of opinions and don't know shit.
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[Albion] Igor Julio - SINGS for 4 years!
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Ajax fans are no different from other fans in the sense that they have a lot of opinions and don't know shit.
Was it Roland Bergkamp?
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
Thought it was Veltman
It was wayyyy pre velty. More like propper era !Think you’re probably right….
And they’re right he’s shocking!
Somebody please tell Todd Boehly we're buying our upgraded replacement for Colwill - then he can dash in to gazump us with a £40M bid (and decide he might as well let us have Colwill if Colwill won't sign a new contract).
Well, a boy can dream ............................
Well, a boy can dream ............................
Review from last season .....
Igor
A strange season for the big Brazilian, who emerged as one of Italy’s most impressive defenders last year, but he couldn’t maintain it. He’s particularly prone to misjudging high passes over the top and to losing runners in the box; both of those issues caused him, and Fiorentina, considerable grief this season. However, he’s still magnificent in building up from the back, both as a passer and a dribbler, and it’s much easier to remember the mistakes than the times he snuffed out attacks with good, proactive defending. Still, this was probably a step back from him.
Stats: 42 appearances (36 starts), 10 yellow cards, 2 red cards
What’s next: There’s reportedly big interest from Fulham, and it sounds like Daniele Pradè may be willing to accept a €15 million fee for him and take the plusvalenza. If that’s the case, we wish him the best of luck, although keeping him wouldn’t be a bad outcome.
Grade: C- There were good moments and it’s not fair to ignore them, but the catastrophic ones outweighed them.
Hopefully we can get him back on track !! I guess we wouldn't be getting a top serie a defender who is also on form for 15 million, so makes some sense.
Igor
A strange season for the big Brazilian, who emerged as one of Italy’s most impressive defenders last year, but he couldn’t maintain it. He’s particularly prone to misjudging high passes over the top and to losing runners in the box; both of those issues caused him, and Fiorentina, considerable grief this season. However, he’s still magnificent in building up from the back, both as a passer and a dribbler, and it’s much easier to remember the mistakes than the times he snuffed out attacks with good, proactive defending. Still, this was probably a step back from him.
Stats: 42 appearances (36 starts), 10 yellow cards, 2 red cards
What’s next: There’s reportedly big interest from Fulham, and it sounds like Daniele Pradè may be willing to accept a €15 million fee for him and take the plusvalenza. If that’s the case, we wish him the best of luck, although keeping him wouldn’t be a bad outcome.
Grade: C- There were good moments and it’s not fair to ignore them, but the catastrophic ones outweighed them.
Hopefully we can get him back on track !! I guess we wouldn't be getting a top serie a defender who is also on form for 15 million, so makes some sense.
Is Colwill £25m better than Igor? Definitely not but the resale value potential on Igor will certainly be a lot lower. I still think we could sign both but don’t fancy either at left back, unlike Bassey. I wonder if Samuels, Milner, Lamptey and Groß are e ought to cover Pervis?
Johnny RoastBeef
These aren't the players you're looking for.
- Jan 11, 2016
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De Zerbi is willing to accept defensive risks if the offensive rewards are worth it, and from that report it sounds as though Igor's "magnificent" playing out from the back is worth the risk.
Verbruggen is also known to be an excellent sweeper keeper, happy to come out of his box to cover those balls over the top which Igor may struggle with.
Another view would be, that like other players we have signed they have gone off the rails a bit (see Billy G) but we can nurse them back to top form and get a bargain in the process.
Season before last Julio was one of the top defenders in serie a and juve were sniffing around. Price would have been triple last summer.
B-right-on
Living the dream
Exactly what I thought. Could triple it again with a bit of RDZ magic.
Cucurella anyone?
Once Moises has gone and he comes in we will have successfully removed all tacklers from the team in favour of those that can pass it. I think De Zerbi, quite rightly, is going for the first 100% possession season.
junior
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Will hopefully put a stop to some of the outrage on here when it is claimed one of our players has agreed terms terms with another club prior to the clubs agreeing fee's etc.
nwgull
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Colwill has a shed load of potential - hence the 30-40m valuation - but probably wouldn't get in our starting 11 when all centre backs are fit and on form. Chelsea fans seem to be expecting him to come straight into their team and play like prime VVD.
US Seagull
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Exactly. We don't need no stinkin' defense.
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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I think Colwill would play if all fit. RDZ is obsessed with body position. Where you receive the ball, what options your body position offers. That's one of the main reasons he's so keen on a left footed CB- wasn't really a priority before he joined.
You simply don't have the same options if you're right footed. You're naturally having to face inside and then open your body up once you have the ball as opposed to being able to receive the ball with a very open and forward facing body position. Much harder to play progressive passes outside. Slows everything down, maybe only by milliseconds but it all counts in DeZerbiBall.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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This is a good point. Apart from all being big Albion sales, the one thing that links Ben White, Cucurella, Bissouma, Caicedo, MacAllister is that they all played next to Dunk who - I would argue - made their lives considerably more comfortable than what they could expect elsewhere.
Indeed, if Arsenal accommodate Timber at RB by moving White to CB alongside Gabriel then they could be in for a nasty surprise. Will Colwill really perform like a GOAT alongside an ageing Thiago Silva? Hmm...