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Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,889
Guiseley
I thought no-one could be stopped unless there was a reasonable suspicion that they were doing something wrong?
 




Boys 9d

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2012
1,855
Lancing
Isn't the "official" excuse that they are checking documents?
 


jevs

Well-known member
Mar 24, 2004
4,375
Preston Rock Garden
Has anyone tried using those breathalysers you have to have for France or even some of the more elaborate ones. I'd like to give it a go just as an indicator to see if im ever over the limit in the morning rather than relying on them.
 




essbee

New member
Jan 5, 2005
3,656
jevs,

A good idea and would be in the public interest if people
checked themselves.
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,889
Guiseley
Has anyone tried using those breathalysers you have to have for France or even some of the more elaborate ones. I'd like to give it a go just as an indicator to see if im ever over the limit in the morning rather than relying on them.

Yep. I have a digital one and it's useless. Had four pints of lager and it said I was under the limit. Should've got a refund really.
 








HalifaxSeagull

Active member
Aug 24, 2010
774
If you commit a moving traffic offence and are stopped officers can request a breath test. If you refuse, but (and it's a big but) officers DON'T suspect you've been drinking the straight up refusal can be met with a 5 points penalty. However if they stop you for a moving trafdic offence and suspect you've been drinking ad you refuse a breath test you get nicked and taken into to a station for a go on an 'ontoxilisor' which is the evidential machine. If you fail to provide a sample without good cause its a straight up charge and to court where you'll likely be dealt with as if you've blown over.

They do have seasonal pushes on stopping vehicles. An officer can stop any vehicle, anywhere (with exception of diplomatic vehicles) to check documentation of the driver etc and use this as the excuse to pull you over. If you are pulled over as part of this type of thing and you haven't committed a moving traffic offence and the officer doesn't suspect alcohol then legally you don't have to provide a sample, although that may in itself raise their suspicions. There's other legislation regarding the officers need to be in uniform to administer / request the test, but I can't remember it!

Loads if decent, 'normal', working people are caught out the morning after, after long sleeps, coffee and who feel totally sober, which is why, I guess, the police have these morning after initiatives. So he carefull / stay on the cokes if driving early the next day!

There are websites such as RuPissed.com that claims to be able to work out your blood alcohol level taking into account weight / height / age / gender etc, but I wouldn't trust it in a million years!
 


Titus

Come on!
Feb 21, 2010
2,873
Up here on the left.
Has anyone tried using those breathalysers you have to have for France or even some of the more elaborate ones. I'd like to give it a go just as an indicator to see if im ever over the limit in the morning rather than relying on them.

You can get them in Halfords.
 




Butch Willykins

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2011
2,551
Shoreham-by-Sea
An officer can stop any vehicle, anywhere (with exception of diplomatic vehicles) to check documentation of the driver etc

Although slightly off topic, this is quite interesting. As anyone who drives regularly in London will probably agree Diplomatic cars are some of the shoddiest drivers on the road. it's quite apparent that driver training and testing standards in their own countries are way way behind those in the UK.
 


HalifaxSeagull

Active member
Aug 24, 2010
774
Although slightly off topic, this is quite interesting. As anyone who drives regularly in London will probably agree Diplomatic cars are some of the shoddiest drivers on the road. it's quite apparent that driver training and testing standards in their own countries are way way behind those in the UK.

And they've been on the sauce!!
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,944
Crap Town
Although slightly off topic, this is quite interesting. As anyone who drives regularly in London will probably agree Diplomatic cars are some of the shoddiest drivers on the road. it's quite apparent that driver training and testing standards in their own countries are way way behind those in the UK.

In some countries that is called defensive driving to stop rocket propelled grenades locking onto the vehicle :lol:
 




Even if there is no obvious reason to suspect alcohol in the system, nothing wrong with the documentation and no moving traffic offence has been committed, are the police allowed to ask the simple question "Have you been drinking in the last twelve hours?"

And, if you answer "Yes", does that move you into the category of having to allow them to administer a breath test?

Of course, I guess you don't have to answer the question. But, if you do ... what then?
 




HalifaxSeagull

Active member
Aug 24, 2010
774
Even if there is no obvious reason to suspect alcohol in the system, nothing wrong with the documentation and no moving traffic offence has been committed, are the police allowed to ask the simple question "Have you been drinking in the last twelve hours?"

And, if you answer "Yes", does that move you into the category of having to allow them to administer a breath test?

Of course, I guess you don't have to answer the question. But, if you do ... what then?

Sounds about right, you then move into the realms of suspicion. As the OP said, best just getting the bus!
 


Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,481
I thought no-one could be stopped unless there was a reasonable suspicion that they were doing something wrong?

That's the theory Notters. Someone ran that (on the basis of an unlawfully obtained specimen) when defending a drink driving charge quite a few years back and failed. Sussex and Kent have had no problem stopping everyone if they wanna pitch up on a certain road one night; I've given maybe 4 specimens that way. Might be a logistical nightmare to pull that stunt in the morning rush hour though.
 


Dec 29, 2011
8,204
Has anyone tried using those breathalysers you have to have for France or even some of the more elaborate ones. I'd like to give it a go just as an indicator to see if im ever over the limit in the morning rather than relying on them.

Can also get them in Cliffords, probably a lot cheaper than Halfords too
 


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