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[Albion] If you could ask Hurz some questions...



Moshe Gariani

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And Arsenal?
Yes, Arsenal make slow progress across the whole pitch too. According to the graphic they enter the penalty area marginally quicker than us and the other three slugs.
 




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1. Hopefully this is not the case because medical staff will almost without exceptions leave a club if their advice isn't followed. Doctors expect their medical advice to be followed, from my experience they very rarely see themselves as "beneath" the manager or that the manager is their boss (that's the club or someone with a medical profession at the club). They often simply won't take their ~10 years of education getting overruled by someone who has none.
So lets hope its not like that.

2. Generally the managers sit there because they're expected to and people will lose their shit if they're not at the sideline. The dugout is indeed the worst possible view and people playing a Premier League team will barely hear nor see the "sideline antics" from any manager because they're busy playing football. If you ask any manager why they yell a lot on the sidelines, the answer will almost always be "for my own sake!". And then of course... while sitting in the stands will give you more info and insight, its not why people become managers... the thrill comes with being in the action.

3. Fair enough. I just feel that any little insight could remove a little bit of pressure on Fab. Not that there's much of that at present, but if we don't win for another few weeks he'll either be bald again or turning gray as if he was aging at 200km/h. I think it can be a good moment now to be a bit more transparent.

4. Maybe. I genuinely have no idea. He didn't seem to suffer from playing a lot when he was fit but at the same time we've been very keen on managing his minutes since basically the day he arrived and I just wonder what changed.
Good.

The first point, what I meant was that I suspect that the medical team will be reluctant to criticize a manager for playing a fit uninjured player every week. And attributing his subsequent stress fracture to culpable over-playing by the manager would be a stretch, even if correct. So I don't think this issue, whether real or not, is tractable (answerable).
 


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Yep and the Mods deleted my post so clearly your essay was the only one you wanted to hear on this thread.
Errrrrr.... believe or not, I'm not a moderator here...

If the mods found that whatever you wrote wasn't quite something they wanted here, feel free to make a new reply relating to the subject and I'm sure we can have interesting conversations.

Lets stick to football and the velocity of various bird species in this one.
 


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Yesterday at the darts the fans were singing:

“Callan Rydz, Callan Rydz, Callan, Callan Rydz
He’s got shit hair but we don’t care, Callan, Callan Rydz”

Do you think this is fair?

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That is shit hair. But not Martinez-level shit, though.

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Yep and a Mod deleted my post presumably because it was too long/didn’t answer the question so clearly your negative essay on FH was the only one you wanted to hear on this thread.

(btw It doesn’t matter whether it’s disguised as a poll of other people’s opinions/questions, this was all about laying out yours and a fishing thread imho which is why I chose to address the bias in the questions you raised instead of asking even more questions than we have already on this forum in recent months.)

Happy New Year.

I hope it all becomes a bit clearer to you what we are trying to do at Brighton abd the timescale we are trying to do it in.
Your post (post 34) is still there:

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Errrrrr.... believe or not, I'm not a moderator here...

If the mods found that whatever you wrote wasn't quite something they wanted here, feel free to make a new reply relating to the subject and I'm sure we can have interesting conversations.

Lets stick to football and the velocity of various bird species in this one.
Erm, no one’s deleted anything on this unless it was deleted by the author.

Good thread. A mix of football, humour and ego nicely doing the job until it’s time to go out. Carry on… …
 


Zeberdi

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Your post (post 34) is still there:

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Weird because I couldn’t see it for a few moments when I scrolled back earlier.

Maybe I had myself on ignore. 😂

I have to admit to misreading the title of the thread - I thought the thread was started to post the Questions HS and asking other people to pose theirs so he could answer them - so was just responding to HS’s Qs rather than ask any of my own.

I would ask FH what his objectives are for this season.

I expect the answer would be not to be relegated, develop the team and try and get another top 10 finish.

And whether he agrees with me that Black Forest Gateau is preferably to Christmas cake
 
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Weird because I couldn’t see it for a few moments when I scrolled back earlier.

Maybe I had myself on ignore. 😂

I have to admit to misreading the title of the thread - I thought the thread was started to post the Questions HS had so was just responding to those rather than ask any of my own.

I would ask FH what his objectives are for this season.

I expect the answer would be not to be relegated, develop the team and try and get another top 10 finish.

And whether he agrees with me that Black Forest Gateau is preferably to Christmas cake
Lol!

(It's quite an interesting thread and I'm sure that Swanny doesn't mind the piss taking. :thumbsup: )
 


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I'm in no shape or form "manager out!!!" and won't be as long as we win a game in January (if we don't it might be an unsurmountable challenge for even the best of managers if he's young and inexperienced, but lets worry about that another day).

I do have questions however and I guess others do to, so lets take a "lets not kill or worship the guy and just tell the concerns and general things you'd like to understand".

I want to know the following things:

1. All sports science tell us that starting U21 players repeatedly (often twice a week) over a few months is a very dangerous game to play. Last season our Jack Hinshelwood suffered the most typical "overplaying non-full grown bodies" injuries - a stress fracture.
Regardless if his current injury has anything to do with overplaying - what is the reasoning for letting Jack Hinshelwood play more than anyone else in our opening 11 fixtures while also playing for the English U21 team?

2. We have heard you talk about the team needing to have a positive body language and control their emotions and reactions towards each other.
From a pedagogical and coaching perspective, whats the benefit of telling players to be controlled and disciplined while you yourself pick up cards and suspensions for losing control and discipline? Is there some sort of idea backing this up? I've studied some coaching and never heard "behave the opposite of how you want your players to behave", so I'm genuinely curious.

3. I understand there is a process. I do get that.
I'm not telling you to give away all the details - no manager would - but I would like to here if you could care to elaborate on the process and provide some insight to this process so that I can better understand it and perhaps show more trust in it? Like... what are the core areas we're targeting to improve? Feel free to be vague; just some sort of answer other than "trust the process" or "we haven't done what we want to do yet".

4. I mentioned Jack Hinshelwood before but there's another player I'd like to ask a somewhat similar question about: Danny Welbeck.

Graham Potter and Roberto De Zerbi were quite keen on managing and limiting the game time of Danny Welbeck in order to keep him fit.
I'd like to know if you think those were wrong in doing that given you started Welbz in our first 13 PL games, including days after he had been transported by ambulance to a hospital due to injury? Is the increased game time for Welbeck due to physical tests saying it'll be fine or is it simply a decision made because he's too good to rest?

5. We've had a taller and physically stronger setup this season than in recent times and we're neither scoring nor creating particularly many chances (not conceding many either tbf) from set pieces. Is this... a work in progress to be polished once others things improve a little bit more or is it something we've prioritised but not managed to do well yet?
No2 is a weird one. Fab doesn't go in for the arm waving theatrics, but he seems to have perfected a sort of passive/aggressive approach that is obviously rubbing the officials up the wrong way. Giving the 4th official (which surely must be the WORST job in football) a bit of gip is a bit of a release for many managers. Then again, results never seem to be affected when coaches spends a few games upstairs, so no-ones particularly bothered. As to what the players think...
 






Rdodge30

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My questions would be
1. What guidance are you giving Enciso, have you given him license to shoot from anywhere or have you tried to change his game.

2. Where do you think the squad needs strengthening (if he says we need a couple of wingers and another number 10 I’d be concerned)

3. Would you prefer to set up and play like we did v Newcastle?
 










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Good.

The first point, what I meant was that I suspect that the medical team will be reluctant to criticize a manager for playing a fit uninjured player every week. And attributing his subsequent stress fracture to culpable over-playing by the manager would be a stretch, even if correct. So I don't think this issue, whether real or not, is tractable (answerable).
I suspect they have far more influence over/dialogue with Fab than they did with DeZ.
 


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Machiavelli

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I was impressed to hear that Gerhard Richter was your favourite artist, but can you explain why you didn't include Anselm Kiefer in your short list?
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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I'm in no shape or form "manager out!!!" and won't be as long as we win a game in January (if we don't it might be an unsurmountable challenge for even the best of managers if he's young and inexperienced, but lets worry about that another day).

I do have questions however and I guess others do to, so lets take a "lets not kill or worship the guy and just tell the concerns and general things you'd like to understand".

I want to know the following things:

1. All sports science tell us that starting U21 players repeatedly (often twice a week) over a few months is a very dangerous game to play. Last season our Jack Hinshelwood suffered the most typical "overplaying non-full grown bodies" injuries - a stress fracture.
Regardless if his current injury has anything to do with overplaying - what is the reasoning for letting Jack Hinshelwood play more than anyone else in our opening 11 fixtures while also playing for the English U21 team?

2. We have heard you talk about the team needing to have a positive body language and control their emotions and reactions towards each other.
From a pedagogical and coaching perspective, whats the benefit of telling players to be controlled and disciplined while you yourself pick up cards and suspensions for losing control and discipline? Is there some sort of idea backing this up? I've studied some coaching and never heard "behave the opposite of how you want your players to behave", so I'm genuinely curious.

3. I understand there is a process. I do get that.
I'm not telling you to give away all the details - no manager would - but I would like to here if you could care to elaborate on the process and provide some insight to this process so that I can better understand it and perhaps show more trust in it? Like... what are the core areas we're targeting to improve? Feel free to be vague; just some sort of answer other than "trust the process" or "we haven't done what we want to do yet".

4. I mentioned Jack Hinshelwood before but there's another player I'd like to ask a somewhat similar question about: Danny Welbeck.

Graham Potter and Roberto De Zerbi were quite keen on managing and limiting the game time of Danny Welbeck in order to keep him fit.
I'd like to know if you think those were wrong in doing that given you started Welbz in our first 13 PL games, including days after he had been transported by ambulance to a hospital due to injury? Is the increased game time for Welbeck due to physical tests saying it'll be fine or is it simply a decision made because he's too good to rest?

5. We've had a taller and physically stronger setup this season than in recent times and we're neither scoring nor creating particularly many chances (not conceding many either tbf) from set pieces. Is this... a work in progress to be polished once others things improve a little bit more or is it something we've prioritised but not managed to do well yet?
If I can channel my inner Fab .... First I think he'd smile politely at you in the manner of an astrophysicist answering a child's question about the moon being made of cheese. Then he'd get to the substance, which I reckon would be something like ....

1) O'Riley was injured. Milner was injured. Wieffer was injured. Baleba and Ayari are the same age as Hinsh and probably behind him for top level experience. Selection options were limited

2) I'm sorry. It's not conscious and it's not deep level psychology. I don't always practice what I preach. I watch how Potter did it, but i'm not quite at his level

3) I use the term process as a shorthand for general individual improvement and trying to implement a particular tactical style. Process is just quicker to say.

4) I take the advice of the medical team on Danny. However Evan has been struggling for fitness and form and Danny was in the form of his life. Team selection involves balancing these risks every day

5) Although we have more tall players than in previous seasons, especially in midfield, they've not featured enough due to injury to noticeably affect our threat from set peices. My primary reason for selection them is for what they can offer in open play
 


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