[Politics] If there was a general election tomorrow

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

I don’t know yet. They all have faults.

 

[Pavilionaire]

That is the way it is I’m afraid.

I don’t trust Labour or the Lib Dems. So of the three, what choice is there?

Are you really saying the Tories are MORE trustworthy than Labour/Lib Dems? I don't see how any incoming government can possibly be any LESS trustworthy than this Johnson government.

Johnson will go down in history as the biggest liar of them all, from the red bus, to the parties, the lockdown breaking, the PPE scandal, lying to the Queen re proroguing Parliament, all the Brexit lies - it literally never ends.

Or is it really not about trust, but about disagreeing with their leftist policies?

 

[Deadly Danson]

That is the way it is I’m afraid.

We all have our own opinions on what we think is best for ourselves and the UK as a whole. I don’t trust Labour or the Lib Dems. So of the three, what choice is there?

I am convinced though that Boris wont be PM come the next election.

Unbelievable. You TRUST this Tory government? Say that out loud and see how ridiculous it sounds. Even if they weren't so vile I honestly can't see how a sentient person could trust them.

 

[Mellotron]

Wow. I know we all live in our bubbles to an extent but this genuinely shocks me.

This tells me that even if the Tories changed their name to the We Are Nasty C***s And Actively Hate All Of You Plebs party, they would still retain a solid 30-40% of their voters.

Yeah, Johnson is comfortably the worst PM in history, but did you see how Ed Milliband eats a sandwich?!

 

[Brovion]

I’m genuinely curious to hear why people would willingly still vote Tory after the absolute shit show that we’ve witnessed over the last few years.

Never voted Tory in my life, but trying to look at it from their point of view I guess they would say that Johnson isn't the Tory party, and with a decent leader ('decent' as both a politician and a person) and a return to traditional 'one nation' Conservative principles a Conservative government is still the least worst alternative.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Never voted Tory in my life, but trying to look at it from their point of view I guess they would say that Johnson isn't the Tory party, and with a decent leader ('decent' as both a politician and a person) and a return to traditional 'one nation' Conservative principles a Conservative government is still the least worst alternative.

Your point re person and party is certainly true, and certainly worth remembering. However, the ‘person’ was enough to stop people voting for Labour under Corbyn and I wonder why the same logic doesn’t apply to the Tories under Johnson

 

[stewart12]

anyone but Tory. My line of work highlights the misery that a Tory government inflicts on the most vulnerable of our society

In my constituency that reluctantly means Lib Dem

 

[Mellotron]

Never voted Tory in my life, but trying to look at it from their point of view I guess they would say that Johnson isn't the Tory party, and with a decent leader ('decent' as both a politician and a person) and a return to traditional 'one nation' Conservative principles a Conservative government is still the least worst alternative.

The entire cabinet would have to go though. Not only the worst PM but comfortably the most underqualified and incompetent cabinet we’ve ever seen.

Much like Trump has transformed the Republican Party, Johnson has completely changed the make up of the Tories. A number of prominent, respected Tories have left the party.

Anyone looking to vote Tory based on how they used to be wouldn’t achieve that by voting Tory without a MASSIVE shake up of cabinet/PM positions.

 

[Brovion]

Your point re person and party is certainly true, and certainly worth remembering. However, the ‘person’ was enough to stop people voting for Labour under Corbyn and I wonder why the same logic doesn’t apply to the Tories under Johnson

Oh it might - and should. However your question was just why would they vote Tory, not specifically for the Tories under Johnson. If you're asking for the reasons why people would vote for a Conservative party still led by Johnson (which I guess it would be if the election was tomorrow), then yes, I too would like to know the reasons!

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

There are so many areas within which a vote does note count, i.e. Arundel & South Downs, you could put Saddam Hussein in there and he'd get in. We need proportional representation now, so every single vote counts. But the big two wouldn't go for that.

 

[goldstone]

I’m genuinely curious to hear why people would willingly still vote Tory after the absolute shit show that we’ve witnessed over the last few years.

I would certainly have voted Conservative, however I absolutely refuse to vote for a party that stole two years of my life because of these ridiculous lockdowns and other restrictions. I hope Nigel Farage re-enters politics and I would vote for whichever party he's involved in.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

I would certainly have voted Conservative, however I absolutely refuse to vote for a party that stole two years of my life because of these ridiculous lockdowns and other restrictions. I hope Nigel Farage re-enters politics and I would vote for whichever party he's involved in.

What makes you think Nigel “we shouldn’t let foreigners dictate how we control our borders but gets involved in the Australia/ Djokovic dispute, which in and of itself is ironic because he’s spent most of his political career demonising Eastern Europeans” Farage, a man who has consistently failed to become a MP would be a good leader?

 

[rippleman]

The entire cabinet would have to go though. Not only the worst PM but comfortably the most underqualified and incompetent cabinet we’ve ever seen.

Much like Trump has transformed the Republican Party, Johnson has completely changed the make up of the Tories. A number of prominent, respected Tories have left the party.

Anyone looking to vote Tory based on how they used to be wouldn’t achieve that by voting Tory without a MASSIVE shake up of cabinet/PM positions.

Totally agree. None of the government ministers serving under Johnson should ever hold a Cabinet position again.

Having seen the PMG the other day then the Minister for Wales on QT last night continuing to defend the indefensible the entire lot of them are a complete shitshow

 

[JBizzle]

I’d vote for whichever candidate in my local constituency was most likely to kick the Tories out, so Labour. Not that I’m a fan of Starmer, but the lying cretin that is Johnson and his party of corrupt sycophants need to go.

Unfortunately, I've been reduced to tactical voting for the last couple of elections. I live in Seaford and you'd need a crowbar to get Maria Caulfield out of that seat. Labour have little or no chance, but the Lib Dems have been gaining year on year.

Although I don't generally like playing that game, a Lib/Lab coalition may well be the only way the Conservatives get ousted and I feel that at the moment the damage being done by this government to our system of democracy and our country far outweighs my discomfort over tactical voting.

 

[taz]

Boris is brilliant lead the country through some of the worst circumstances this country has faced since World War 2,, we're all fully vaccinated if you want to be, the economy is booming back, unemployment zero, wages rising,, just look what's happening across Europe, unbelievable numbers of infections because of their bodged vaccine rollout, inflation out of control, youth unemployment at 30 %, gas supply running out at any moment! Raise a glass to Boris and thank him!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Unfortunately, I've been reduced to tactical voting for the last couple of elections. I live in Seaford and you'd need a crowbar to get Maria Caulfield out of that seat. Labour have little or no chance, but the Lib Dems have been gaining year on year.

Although I don't generally like playing that game, a Lib/Lab coalition may well be the only way the Conservatives get ousted and I feel that at the moment the damage being done by this government to our system of democracy and our country far outweighs my discomfort over tactical voting.

Tactical voting get off the fence


Regards
DF

 

[WATFORD zero]

I would certainly have voted Conservative, however I absolutely refuse to vote for a party that stole two years of my life because of these ridiculous lockdowns and other restrictions. I hope Nigel Farage re-enters politics and I would vote for whichever party he's involved in.

If he does decide to re-enter UK politics, you'll also need to hope that he doesn't get beaten by a man in a dolphin outfit again

 

[Baker lite]

I would probably vote for the party that has spent the last two years trying to undermine the Government at every available opportunity, the Chinese Communist Party it is for me [emoji1303]


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[severnside gull]

As a microcosm it goes to show what an electoral pact could do to get rid of the stench of corrupt fascism enveloping us.
I’d vote LibDem (not my natural affiliation) as I live in an area where there’s a chance they could oust the sitting Tory. If I was in Brighton I’d vote Green. You have one of the best MP’s in parliament

 

[pb21]

Be interesting to see Starmer decides policy and decisions, he’s had it easy as Capt Hindsight so far.

I find him odious, I could never vote for him to run the country

I’ll abstain if I don’t vote Tory

Can I ask why you think Starmer is extremely unpleasant and/or repulsive?

It's a strange and strong accusation, most seem to be that he is boring and/or a bit lightweight. You're the first person I've seen who think he is repulsive.

FWIW, I quite like him, and all the time the Tory party are fronted by the likes of Patel, Raab, Mogg, Gove and Shapps he will be getting my vote.