If Palace were to fold,what would happen ?

[Rookie]

Love some of the business/administration knowledge that is on this board.
How can you be so sure that they won't go into liquidation? Bank hold all the cards and Selhurst is worth a lot of money for a developer. A bank will look after its shareholders first and foremost and get the best deal for them. Won't be as clear cut as some on here believe

 

[Acker79]

not odd at all, if a team didnt perform over the season, why should they be saved by another club going out of business? why the team 3rd from bottom and not 2nd or bottom? theres also the knock on effect, does the team finishing second bottom of league 2 stay up because a team in Championship folds? that would be odd.

But wouldn't that argument hold for the ten point deduction that leads to a relegation? If by losing ten points a team goes down, one club stays up because of the administration, not because of their performance over a season.

Or are you against the 10 point deduction punishment, too?

 

[HastingsSeagull]

The clubs would surely vote for the space to be filled from below, as otherwise they'd loose out on revenue? Although I guess would the sponsorship and tele money be split one less way making up for it?

 

[beorhthelm]

But wouldn't that argument hold for the ten point deduction that leads to a relegation?

the 10pts doesnt lead to relegation though. in the event it does, they weren't very good and thats the rules we start with. thats the point, the rules and outcomes are clear at the start of the season, not retrospectivly changed.

 

[beorhthelm]

How can you be so sure that they won't go into liquidation? Bank hold all the cards and Selhurst is worth a lot of money for a developer. A bank will look after its shareholders first and foremost and get the best deal for them. Won't be as clear cut as some on here believe

cant be 100% sure. but with the planning permssion situation, the development option is some time off. in the meantime, the only way to draw revenue from the site is through CPFC. its in teh interests of the Bank therefore to lease it to the club rather than sell cheap to a developer. sorry, i mean saviour consortium.

 

[Acker79]

the 10pts doesnt lead to relegation though. in the event it does, they weren't very good and thats the rules we start with. thats the point, the rules and outcomes are clear at the start of the season, not retrospectivly changed.

But in the event it does (which are the times I'm referring to) they were good enough to stay up, and would have if not for the 10 point deduction. If we went into Administration this season and had ten points deducted, we would have gone down. We ended on 59 points, 50 were needed for safety (depending on goal difference). Based on results, we were mid-table. Based on results we wouldn't deserve to go down, but would have with administration. Gillingham would have stayed up despite being one of the four worst teams in the division this year.


(Though the retrospective changing of the rules answers the point I was making)

So, if it's about retrospectively changing the rules, would you be ok with the FA saying "from now on, if a club that survives in a division goes into liquidation in the off season, the last team relegated will be reinstated", then it being applied next summer if another club goes to the wall (i.e. it's known at the start of the season that the last relegated club may stay up if a space becomes available)?

 

[SeeGoals]

The only sensible solution if Palace do go out of business is to leave everything as it is for next season. In other words the Championship will start with 23 teams, League One with 24 and League two with 24 and so on down the non-league ladder. Which means each league will then have an extra automatic place to fill the gap left by Palace. So giving each team an extra chance of promotion, which can only be good for us next season as the top 3 would go up and 4-7 would contest the play-offs. I don't think it would be possible to re-instate a relegated team, a lot of clubs will have had players on relegation clauses who may already have moved on to other clubs. That is all.

 

[Mr Apples]

The make up of the divisions for next season is only provisional at the moment, these are not confirmed until the Football League AGM in a couple of weeks time, although any change to the current provisional list is remote.

If a team were to go out of business before the AGM then I'm pretty sure the highest placed "relegated" team in that division would be reinstated, with the equivalent happening in any lower divisions. This seems to be standard practice at the upper levels of non league where clubs fold or resign far more frequently than League teams. This shouldn't affect the players at these clubs as their contracts run from 1st July to 30th June, so any relegation clauses in their contracts will not have been applied yet.

However, if they went out of business after the AGM and after the fixtures were released, then the most likely scenario would be for a division to run one club short with the shortfall being made up at the end of the season with either one fewer team being relegated or one extra being promoted.

Not that any of this is going to happen anyway!