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If only David Cameron would follow the Australian lead.



BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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yes i do, and even if i didnt, if they were fleeing in fear of their lives , it would be better than where they came from.

You do Bushy and you think that it represents a reasonable way to treat people (including children)?

Personally I think we should be aiming higher than "better than where they came from". the fact is that the standards on Manus Island are horrendous and have been described as such by people with far more clue (and compassion) than you. So if it is all the same to you I will take their words for it rather than yours.
 
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alfredmizen

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Mar 11, 2015
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Doing anything under duress is likely to foster unpredictable, muddled thinking, so no, I don't agree.
so you think taking yourself and your five kids to syria with your jihadist husband whilst passing through the multiple security checks that are mandatory before boarding any plane could possibly be put down to unpredicatable, muddled thinking ? you post some sensible stuff on here , but this is making poor excuses and bedwetting of the first order.
 




sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Abbott played a blinder in opposition and capitalised on Labor's disorganisation. he rode in on a wave of a decent hatchett job which, with the help of his mates blindsided everyone in to not actually considering what his policies might be (or what a grade 1 wally he is)

he is far from a wally mate...the sad truth is that since keating hobbled off to his antique encrusted abode labour has had the political nous of a sea cucumber........Abbott , as unlikeable as he is , is no numpty.....he is actually doing what 60 % of the population want doing , he willwin the next election because labour are a pack of idiots.......fat lot of good rudd did with his fluent mandarin....**** off,if you want to do business on these shores , learn our language and adhere to our ways....its a global thing...!!
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
so you think taking yourself and your five kids to syria with your jihadist husband whilst passing through the multiple security checks that are mandatory before boarding any plane could possibly be put down to unpredicatable, muddled thinking ? you post some sensible stuff on here , but this is making poor excuses and bedwetting of the first order.

Betwetting? Not really. It's just a normal reaction to your poorly thought through Mr Angry nonsense as far as I'm concerned.
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,207
he is far from a wally mate...the sad truth is that since keating hobbled off to his antique encrusted abode labour has had the political nous of a sea cucumber........Abbott , as unlikeable as he is , is no numpty.....he is actually doing what 60 % of the population want doing , he willwin the next election because labour are a pack of idiots.......fat lot of good rudd did with his fluent mandarin....**** off,if you want to do business on these shores , learn our language and adhere to our ways....its a global thing...!!

Sadly i agree, much of your post is correct.

labor have serious PR issues and allowed the Libs to dictate the discussion away from the decent policies that Gillard got through a hung parliament. Still like i say he played a blinder in opposition but has been proven to have been talking shite on many of his election promises. Still he did stop the boats (well he passed legislation that meant that he didn't have to make it public when a boat arrived).

Although Abbot is a numpty and it is no coincidence that the Libs do better in the polls when he keeps his mouth shut. My guess is that he will not be the leader come the next election.
 


alfredmizen

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Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Betwetting? Not really. It's just a normal reaction to your poorly thought through Mr Angry nonsense as far as I'm concerned.
Nope, bedwetting it is , and a poorly thought through, wishy washy liberal response to my call for a politician to show some balls for once
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Nope, bedwetting it is , and a poorly thought through, wishy washy liberal response to my call for a politician to show some balls for once

Really it is one of many possible examples that demonstrates why this policy is poorly thought out and will not make the blindest bit of difference to anything. Showing balls is only useful if it is backed by some logical thinking.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
27,776
I can't get this picture out of my head

grouchy-alf-garnett.jpg
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Sadly i agree, much of your post is correct.

labor have serious PR issues and allowed the Libs to dictate the discussion away from the decent policies that Gillard got through a hung parliament. Still like i say he played a blinder in opposition but has been proven to have been talking shite on many of his election promises. Still he did stop the boats (well he passed legislation that meant that he didn't have to make it public when a boat arrived).

Although Abbot is a numpty and it is no coincidence that the Libs do better in the polls when he keeps his mouth shut. My guess is that he will not be the leader come the next election.

i agree....he is an unlikeable character and i hate to think of him burying his snout in the political pensioners trough so the longer he stays there taking it in the boat for the party the better...imho.....i met troy buswell and colin barnett in a boozer about a year ago..right pair of goons, but unfortunately for us ...the right are smarter than the left and generally more cut throat which you need to be to get ahead in politics......it's a global thing....:thumbsup:
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,207
i agree....he is an unlikeable character and i hate to think of him burying his snout in the political pensioners trough so the longer he stays there taking it in the boat for the party the better...imho.....i met troy buswell and colin barnett in a boozer about a year ago..right pair of goons, but unfortunately for us ...the right are smarter than the left and generally more cut throat which you need to be to get ahead in politics......it's a global thing....:thumbsup:

Smarter than us, thats for sure. We are the idiots that vote them in.
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
I can't get this picture out of my head

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Thats probably because your a provincial nobody , with little direct experience of immigration, and are lacking the imagination or wit to see beyond your own poorly conceived prejudices, and no , there isnt the slightest trace of irony in my post.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
Nope, bedwetting it is , and a poorly thought through, wishy washy liberal response to my call for a politician to show some balls for once
It's not though, is it? I highlighted a situation where revoking citizenship might be an unfair thing to do. Moreover, there would be plenty of situations in the future where revoking citizenship could be seen as pandering to popularist sentiment, but ultimately not the right or fair thing to do. It doesn't really matter whether or not you think I was making poor excuses or betwetting in that particular example, the point is that there could be other real borderline examples that are open to abuse.

But ultimately, this is all about you getting all angry about nothing - as usual. And of course, if anyone had pointed out the outrageousness of it all, you'd have accused them of being "busy". It seems that it's perfectly all right with you to comment on irrelevant foreign policy from countries that are thousands of miles away, as long as that policy is completely intolerant and poorly thought through. If not, then according to you it is an example of being busy.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,207
Thats probably because your a provincial nobody , with little direct experience of immigration, and are lacking the imagination or wit to see beyond your own poorly conceived prejudices, and no , there isnt the slightest trace of irony in my post.

There is plenty of Irony in your post. None of it deliberate apparently..... which is a worry.
 




matthew

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Tony Abbott - the evangenical Christian that doesn't believe in climate change despite their record breaking hot summers and forest fires. I'm against anything he's for...
 


WATFORD zero

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Thats probably because your a provincial nobody , with little direct experience of immigration, and are lacking the imagination or wit to see beyond your own poorly conceived prejudices,

Could be

Or it could be that despite coming from a very poor/rough background myself, I took every opportunity that came my way, worked extremely hard, took responsibility for myself and my family and did very well for myself. That, in turn, meant that I didn't have to look to blame everyone else for my inability to progress and my shortcomings.

It's probably one of those two.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Thats probably because your a provincial nobody , with little direct experience of immigration, and are lacking the imagination or wit to see beyond your own poorly conceived prejudices, and no , there isnt the slightest trace of irony in my post.

and this is the perpetual problem here.....we all love curry , we love a bit of jallof , a kebab , plantains , cous cous , we like a spliff , we love rum.....this all makes us multiculturally aware doesn't it...?? p.s i've been to tenereife you know...!!
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Tony Abbott - the evangenical Christian that doesn't believe in climate change despite their record breaking hot summers and forest fires. I'm against anything he's for...
right wing politicians who govern countries that makes most of their income from fossil fuels and minerals do not generally spout off about global warming i'm afraid.......sad fact of life.
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Could be

Or it could be that despite coming from a very poor/rough background myself, I took every opportunity that came my way, worked extremely hard, took responsibility for myself and my family and did very well for myself. That, in turn, meant that I didn't have to look to blame everyone else for my inability to progress and my shortcomings.

It's probably one of those two.
The mistake you make is portraying me as unsuccessful and blaming my poor life on immigration and everything and everyone but my own shortcomings, you couldnt be more wrong, i too come from a working class background and have taken every opportunity offered to me and despite some very major setbacks and have done very well for myself , i however , do come from an area of very high immigration, and realise that not everybody has the ability or wherewithal to leave these places behind , you can sit there all day long expounding the benefits of our wonderful multicultural melting pot, but until youve experienced first hand your home town turning into a place that resembles karachi more than it does the area you grew up in , then i wont take you seriously in any way shape or form .
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,207
The mistake you make is portraying me as unsuccessful and blaming my poor life on immigration and everything and everyone but my own shortcomings, you couldnt be more wrong, i too come from a working class background and have taken every opportunity offered to me and despite some very major setbacks and have done very well for myself , i however , do come from an area of very high immigration, and realise that not everybody has the ability or wherewithal to leave these places behind , you can sit there all day long expounding the benefits of our wonderful multicultural melting pot, but until youve experienced first hand your home town turning into a place that resembles karachi more than it does the area you grew up in , then i wont take you seriously in any way shape or form .
Because your experience of multiculturalism is the only true experience and the only one that allows a valid opinion on the subject. If you don't like provincial nobodies perhaps you should take your own earlier advice and **** off back to London.
 


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