If a football club's fans behave like these RUDDY students (Merged)

[brightonrock]

OMG someone with a Media Studies degree thats even worse than a Social Science degree according to the toryboys and girls of NSC. Did you have it paid for by the tax payers, cos they'll want you burned at the stake if you did.

Nope, I went before top-up fees and financed it myself. I worked for 3 years while I was at uni too. But you're right, NSC (like all forums) is home to many a right-wing idiot who's already made up his mind. Keyboard warriors the lot of 'em.


(It was a joint honours degree by the way, so I'm not 100% scum)

 

[BadFish]

It amazes me that people are getting so much criticism for getting off their arses and making a stand about the shit the government throw at them.

i am especially amazed by those with the reason that they are struggling and being taxed by the same government. If that is the case then get off your arse and join the protest! you can be sure that those people in parliment or the city are not being affected by the recession in the same way as you, so go and make a stand.

Yes, but most people actually support this government, and realise it's doing what needs to be done to clear up the mess the socialists have got us into. I've never taken to the streets in protest but if need be I'll be there to back the forces of law and order in crushing the anarchist/leftist student scum.

Are you suggesting that New Labour are or were socialists? that is the most ridiculous thing i have read on this thread (and up against some pretty stiff competition).

 

[brightonian finest]

He's just trying to do his job, and earn a living

Good news is he okay?

 

[pottert]

Are you suggesting that New Labour are or were socialists? that is the most ridiculous thing i have read on this thread (and up against some pretty stiff competition).

Im giving my opinion here having not read the previous 24 pages so please forgive me.

I think that the student protests are now doing more harm than good to their cause.
I except that 75% of protesters are there to make their point in a peaceful manner.
But the mindless violence that these protests have created is just criminal.
If the future of this country behave like this when they want to make there point
god help us.
If football fans acted like that after a bad result they would be arrested & locked up
but students can do what they like.
TOSSERS
when they enter the real world & things don
t go their way will they start marching again.
WAKEY WAKEY
life is shit get used to it

 

[Southwick_Seagull]

How well put was this in The Sun today?

And the chant outside the Treasury "We want our money back!"

How ridiculous, you never EVER have paid any taxes.

Yup, because none of us either:

A) Worked before we went to Uni

or

B) Are currently working to help towards paying our education.

No point arguing on this place as common sense gets pushed aside and only extreme comments get noticed. Only thing that proper grates is the typical stereotypical bullocks about students that comes out of people who probably haven't stepped on a University campus for donkeys. 'Bloody lazy, unwashed, time-wasting, tax dodging, drunkards using our taxes to get themselves hammered every night.' It simply isn't true, it's really boring and totally unoriginal. It's up there with singing "we can see you holding hands" to us at football.

 

[Rookie]

Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." Since it is highly unlikely that any foreign government paid someone to go boo to camilla or throw a can of paint at a car, it isnt treason.

I know you think you know a lot. but using lots of words and putting them into some kind of order just means you have an opinion. Checking your facts before you post helps a lot.

The definition you referred to just states the first element of treason. While its not relevant to what went on the other day, the Treason Act 1351 is still in force and sets out what is to be regarded as treason, including such beauties as 'violates the King's wife or the Sovereign's eldest daughter unmarried or the wife of the Sovereign's eldest son and heir'.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

OMG someone with a Media Studies degree thats even worse than a Social Science degree according to the toryboys and girls of NSC. Did you have it paid for by the tax payers, cos they'll want you burned at the stake if you did.

Pointless doing a media degree. I mean, it's only one of the biggest growth industries of the past decade. Why bother taking a degree in such a practical subject with so many job opportunities?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The definition you referred to just states the first element of treason. While its not relevant to what went on the other day, the Treason Act 1351 is still in force and sets out what is to be regarded as treason, including such beauties as 'violates the King's wife or the Sovereign's eldest daughter unmarried or the wife of the Sovereign's eldest son and heir'.

Bit confusing this. I think Ive worked it out though. Am I right in saying I need to bum Prince William to commit treason? Or is it Princess Margret?

 

[Castello]

Pointless doing a media degree. I mean, it's only one of the biggest growth industries of the past decade. Why bother taking a degree in such a practical subject with so many job opportunities?

Because doing so would confuse those on here that can only see students as the great unwashed. Unless they do Medicine, Science or Law.

Bit confusing this. I think Ive worked it out though. Am I right in saying I need to bum Prince William to commit treason? Or is it Princess Margret?

I think to be absolutely sure you need to get William to bum Margaret

 

[Phoenix Arrow]

They'll all vote Tory in five years...

If they didn't vote Tory already... most of my friends are at uni, I chose not to go, and I know for a fact loads of them voted Tory. I asked them why since they're students. None of them had the foggiest what policies they were voting for until I told them. Well whatever, if they didn't vote Tory they'd have had to vote Lib Dem around here and that was clearly a f***ing fantastic move for me.

I suppose the theory of the protests. But I was in London the other day and saw some of these protesters. I don't like to pigeon-hole, but most of the people there seemed to upper middle class/upper class students. I know that a lot of people have trouble paying for uni, but it just seemed like the kind of students who are going to uni "for the experience" and living out of their parents pockets. I'm get the idea of solidarity, but it seemed like it's just an excuse to go to protest for a lot of them. That and they have no idea what they're talking about a lot of the time.

Or maybe I'm bitter because they caused the tube to be disrupted, which meant I missed my train home and had to wait a f***ing hour to get home.

 

[KneeOn]

Yup, because none of us either:

A) Worked before we went to Uni

or

B) Are currently working to help towards paying our education.

No point arguing on this place as common sense gets pushed aside and only extreme comments get noticed. Only thing that proper grates is the typical stereotypical bullocks about students that comes out of people who probably haven't stepped on a University campus for donkeys. 'Bloody lazy, unwashed, time-wasting, tax dodging, drunkards using our taxes to get themselves hammered every night.' It simply isn't true, it's really boring and totally unoriginal. It's up there with singing "we can see you holding hands" to us at football.

Come off it! Its not like some people are so willing to work for money to ease off their parents and contribute to the state that they've got a 3 mile walk in to work at half seven tomorrow morning or that they VOLUNTEER and book extra shifts at work today or anything. We're all just f***ing lazy tax evading scummers.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Pointless doing a media degree. I mean, it's only one of the biggest growth industries of the past decade. Why bother taking a degree in such a practical subject with so many job opportunities?

But does that warrent a 3 year university course?

Also, does a media degree really prepare you for a specific job in the media anymore than a computing, writing or business degree would? Most jobs you can learn to do without a degree, I work in IT alongside people who have degrees and they had to learn from scratch just like I did.

I'm sure there's a case for some of these courses being condensed into a couple of years. You can't treat every subject the same, a science degree surely needs more work than a media degree, that doesn't mean the media one is worthless but it muddys the water by treating them the same way.

Some subjects taught as Uni courses seem more vocational to me. I'd favour some sort of two tier uni system, that might stop the value of a degree being degraded like it is now

 

[User removed 4]

5 Northern Ireland. I really think it would be hard to dispute that catholics in northern ireland would have anything like the rights they now have including an integral part in a devolved government, without first the civil rights movement from 1964 onwards and then the IRA campaign. Clearly many will disagree with the means the IRA used, but its effectiveness would be hard to dispute.

NICRA achieved rights for catholics, nothing to do with the IRA.

 

[Gary Leeds]

We're all just f***ing lazy tax evading scummers.

this

 

[The Spanish]

NICRA achieved rights for catholics, nothing to do with the IRA.

spot on. a lesson to be learned here that their aims might have been achieved far sooner if it hadnt been hijacked by violent nutters.

 

[Stoo82]

A message from normal people to the students.

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[clapham_gull]

Is it just me - or do I hint a bit of jealousy from those who had neither the opportunity or intelligence to continue their education ?

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

cheap shot and an ad hominem. Expected better from you, Clapham Gull.

 

[bhaexpress]

But does that warrent a 3 year university course?

Also, does a media degree really prepare you for a specific job in the media anymore than a computing, writing or business degree would? Most jobs you can learn to do without a degree, I work in IT alongside people who have degrees and they had to learn from scratch just like I did.

I'm sure there's a case for some of these courses being condensed into a couple of years. You can't treat every subject the same, a science degree surely needs more work than a media degree, that doesn't mean the media one is worthless but it muddys the water by treating them the same way.

Some subjects taught as Uni courses seem more vocational to me. I'd favour some sort of two tier uni system, that might stop the value of a degree being degraded like it is now

The problem with IT degrees is that through not fault of the teachers or those being taught is that what they are learning is often five years or more out of date and people in IT will tell you that they means it's all but obsolete. Obviously people who went straight into work have the advantage of having more current experience and in fact to many employers are far more employable. However at the same time there are other employers who insist on taking on a graduate. The irony is that the employer, the student and the country would be far better off all round if instead the student took an industry specific qualification such as an MCSE. It would not only be a lot cheaper but a lot faster not to mention far more useful. However as such qualifications are carried out by private companies it's unlikely that any government would use them. I spent a year doing an HNC to get into PCs after twenty years in mainframes. It was pretty much a total waste of my time and the tax payer's money as I didn't learn much that I could take to an employer.

I would very much doubt that this situation is specific to my industry so maybe it's time to rationalise our system of education to find more suitable find more usable methods of training people. At the end of the day there are a hell of a lot of jobs out there that do not require a university education, hands on experience would be of far more use and frankly a lot cheaper. A system of apprenticeships would be a good start as they have all but vanished now.

 

[The Spanish]

Is it just me - or do I hint a bit of jealousy from those who had neither the opportunity or intelligence to continue their education ?

thats got just back from the pub written all over it.