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[Football] Idiots at away games



Guinness Boy

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Why do away games attract the very worst of our support?

Yesterday we got to the ground at 7:40 to find a load of people already in our seats. OUR Seats. We had paid good money for them and had to stand in the aisles in what is one of the most dangerous things that can happen in a football ground.

Then when we scored the penalty, a very drunk man jumped on me and shouted "FACKING CAM ANNNNN!" in my ear. Yeah great we scored but really is there any need for this??

I went to speak to a steward at half time but they didn't want to know. What is the point in having them there?

Second half was just as bad. A constant stream of foul language from all those around, everyone standing despite me asking nicely if they wouldn't mind sitting down. I was told to **** off twice.

To top it off when Southamton scored in the second half, another man took my Dad's walking stick and threw it in frustration, meaning I had to push to the front to retrieve it.

You don't get this at the Amex, everyone sits in their seats and doesn't stand and those around me don't feel the need to use that sort of language constantly so why is it like this at away games?

I would be interested to know if anyone else has experienced similar this season as am writing to Paul Barber, Ralph Krueger at Southampton and the Head of Hampshire Police. It ruined our night out

Is it acceptable to swear at TRAINS? You seem to do that a lot........
 




hans kraay fan club

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The rules are REALLY, REALLY simple aren’t they?

1. If you insist on the seat printed on your ticket, arrive early.
2. If you want to sit down, sit at the front.

That’s it. :shrug:
 


The Gem

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Oct 17, 2008
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Why do away games attract the very worst of our support?

Yesterday we got to the ground at 7:40 to find a load of people already in our seats. OUR Seats. We had paid good money for them and had to stand in the aisles in what is one of the most dangerous things that can happen in a football ground.

Then when we scored the penalty, a very drunk man jumped on me and shouted "FACKING CAM ANNNNN!" in my ear. Yeah great we scored but really is there any need for this??

I went to speak to a steward at half time but they didn't want to know. What is the point in having them there?

Second half was just as bad. A constant stream of foul language from all those around, everyone standing despite me asking nicely if they wouldn't mind sitting down. I was told to **** off twice.

To top it off when Southamton scored in the second half, another man took my Dad's walking stick and threw it in frustration, meaning I had to push to the front to retrieve it.

You don't get this at the Amex, everyone sits in their seats and doesn't stand and those around me don't feel the need to use that sort of language constantly so why is it like this at away games?

I would be interested to know if anyone else has experienced similar this season as am writing to Paul Barber, Ralph Krueger at Southampton and the Head of Hampshire Police. It ruined our night out

Lighten up man, and the reason you dont get this at the Amex is because we are the home team and have a very posh fans these days, I say what !!!

Not like in my day, "During the war"
 


sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
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The rules are REALLY, REALLY simple aren’t they?

1. If you insist on the seat printed on your ticket, arrive early.
2. If you want to sit down, sit at the front.

That’s it. :shrug:

It’s just a bit irritating that those who insist on standing / using the wrong seat think it’s fine for others to go to the front. Just because my wife is quite short and generally can’t see if everyone is standing shouldn’t mean that she has to have an even worse view from the front row.

It’s the reason why I always say that safe standing areas should be introduced in away ends first.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
Why do away games attract the very worst of our support?

Yesterday we got to the ground at 7:40 to find a load of people already in our seats. OUR Seats. We had paid good money for them and had to stand in the aisles in what is one of the most dangerous things that can happen in a football ground.

Then when we scored the penalty, a very drunk man jumped on me and shouted "FACKING CAM ANNNNN!" in my ear. Yeah great we scored but really is there any need for this??

I went to speak to a steward at half time but they didn't want to know. What is the point in having them there?

Second half was just as bad. A constant stream of foul language from all those around, everyone standing despite me asking nicely if they wouldn't mind sitting down. I was told to **** off twice.

To top it off when Southamton scored in the second half, another man took my Dad's walking stick and threw it in frustration, meaning I had to push to the front to retrieve it.

You don't get this at the Amex, everyone sits in their seats and doesn't stand and those around me don't feel the need to use that sort of language constantly so why is it like this at away games?

I would be interested to know if anyone else has experienced similar this season as am writing to Paul Barber, Ralph Krueger at Southampton and the Head of Hampshire Police. It ruined our night out
Lawn Bowls might be more up your street fella
 






Thunder Bolt

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The rules are REALLY, REALLY simple aren’t they?

1. If you insist on the seat printed on your ticket, arrive early.
2. If you want to sit down, sit at the front.

That’s it. :shrug:

I agree. Nowadays I contact Supporter services for my away ticket, because I sent them a copy of my consultant's letter. I get a ticket in the very front row.
That works well, but at West Brom, as we were to the right of the goal, 2 people turned up just before kick off (woman & her son) and were standing. So I couldn't see the goal, let alone the corner flag.
I asked her politely to sit down, because I am unable to stand for 90 mins, & she had a right go at me. I pointed out that everyone in that row was either elderly or unable to stand. In the end she asked a steward to find her somewhere at the back.
Swearing? We all do it.
 


A1X

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Actually in fairness to the OP my mate did turn to me at one point and say, “fvck me there are loads of women here tonight. Must be a midweek thing”

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biddles911

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May 12, 2014
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The rules are REALLY, REALLY simple aren’t they?

1. If you insist on the seat printed on your ticket, arrive early.
2. If you want to sit down, sit at the front.

That’s it. :shrug:

REALLY, REALLY!? What a daft comment...

I’ll quote you next time I go to a game and insist on sitting in the Directors’ box and send them down to the front.

Similarly, I buy specific seats because I want a better view than one at ground level. If everyone sits down then everyone gets a decent view from the seat they’ve paid for.

The sense of entitlement shown on this thread i.e. I’ll do whatever I like and sod the effect on other people, is quite breathtaking.....


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chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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A fire...in a concrete stand...next to a football pitch....


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Yep unlikely. But Regardless of whether this is a wind up) How about access for medical teams if one of our fans had had a heart attack ?
 


Deadly Danson

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I agree. Nowadays I contact Supporter services for my away ticket, because I sent them a copy of my consultant's letter. I get a ticket in the very front row.
That works well, but at West Brom, as we were to the right of the goal, 2 people turned up just before kick off (woman & her son) and were standing. So I couldn't see the goal, let alone the corner flag.
I asked her politely to sit down, because I am unable to stand for 90 mins, & she had a right go at me. I pointed out that everyone in that row was either elderly or unable to stand. In the end she asked a steward to find her somewhere at the back.
Swearing? We all do it.

Absolutely. If you need to sit and are lucky enough to be able to grab a seat in the front row either on the day or in advance there is still no guarantee that people around you will sit. The club were kind enough to get me a 2nd row seat for the Chelsea game as I needed to sit due to an injury and the amount of standing around me meant the corner flag area was completely out of view. I normally love standing at away games both for atmosphere and comfort but there is a sizeable chunk of our support who really couldn't give a monkey's about their fellow fans.
 




Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
30,464
Hove
Main Problem at Southampton:
Lack of queuing for beer. You could pretty much stroll up to the bar at 19.15 and still buy a pint within a minute. Did mean many people didn't take their seats until after 19.30.

You then had a HUGE number of rows and seats accessed from each single flight of stairs. The seat spacing was narrow, so if you had tickets in the middle of a row, you were literally getting passed 30 people. So you had 3000 people, not knowing where their seats were, all trying to navigate, then realising it was a bit of a nightmare, then just finding a place because you knew your seats were probably gone anyway.

Had you sat down at 19.15, you'd have had your seat. Anytime after 19.30 was a lottery. People coming up the stairs expecting to find their seat empty at 19.40 – :mad:
 


Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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Yep unlikely. But Regardless of whether this is a wind up) How about access for medical teams if one of our fans had had a heart attack ?

Yes. You're right. Let's argue about a scenario that didn't happen (aisles blocked, old man's walking stick chucked away) and add in yet more hypotheticals and assume that no Brighton fan would move away in that situation so medics can get to this non-existent fan.

By the way, were you there at the end of season Boro match and if so did you make your concerns known then or do you save the po-faced approach just for NSC?
 


sully

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Jul 7, 2003
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Worthing
REALLY, REALLY!? What a daft comment...

I’ll quote you next time I go to a game and insist on sitting in the Directors’ box and send them down to the front.

Similarly, I buy specific seats because I want a better view than one at ground level. If everyone sits down then everyone gets a decent view from the seat they’ve paid for.

The sense of entitlement shown on this thread i.e. I’ll do whatever I like and sod the effect on other people, is quite breathtaking.....


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This.

Let me remind everyone of my view at Stamford Bridge had I needed to stand up:

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There were a large group standing in the aisle to my right that day that meant I couldn’t see anything to the right of this picture whether stood or seated. Thankfully, the stewards made them move for the second half, but they spent the entire 45 minutes moaning and trying to block the view again.

I don’t know why some feel it is their right to ruin the day out for others, but we’d go to far more away games if we didn’t have to put up with this ignorance every time.
 




hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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REALLY, REALLY!? What a daft comment...

I’ll quote you next time I go to a game and insist on sitting in the Directors’ box and send them down to the front.

Similarly, I buy specific seats because I want a better view than one at ground level. If everyone sits down then everyone gets a decent view from the seat they’ve paid for.

The sense of entitlement shown on this thread i.e. I’ll do whatever I like and sod the effect on other people, is quite breathtaking.....


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I didn't make these rules, nor am I commenting on whether they are right or wrong.

That is simply how it is.

(Your counter-example of going to sit in a different area altogether, that your ticket would not allow you to access, is a bit pointless, btw).
 


Lower West Stander

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Mar 25, 2012
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Everything tells me you are fishing (****ing 10 pages), but just in case you aren't:

- Away games attract the best of our support.
- You rock up 5 mins before KO and expect your own seats, your error. Now you know.
- People stand in the aisles all the time and in 15+ years of following us away have avoided incident.
- People get euphoric when we score, some people work very hard all week and football is their release, spending their hard earned regularly.
- Football will always be associated with 'bad language', your future children will know most of these words by the time they are 8, football or no football.
- If you want to start following us away and your desire is to sit, go down to the front as there are always empty seats down there even when full allocations are sold.
- The walking stick incident sounds about the only legitimate grievance, hope you had words.
- Everyone doesn't sit at the Amex, most of the North stand and the 'foul' language is used in the West and South, so you're either in the family section or 1901 (even heard some choice words there).
- Write to them all you like, you will change nothing because the vast majority of fans who regularly travel away to support their sides up and down the country don't agree with a single word you just said and long may that continue.

You know that last sentence for a fact do you?
 


pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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Sussex
I agree. Nowadays I contact Supporter services for my away ticket, because I sent them a copy of my consultant's letter. I get a ticket in the very front row.
That works well, but at West Brom, as we were to the right of the goal, 2 people turned up just before kick off (woman & her son) and were standing. So I couldn't see the goal, let alone the corner flag.
I asked her politely to sit down, because I am unable to stand for 90 mins, & she had a right go at me. I pointed out that everyone in that row was either elderly or unable to stand. In the end she asked a steward to find her somewhere at the back.
Swearing? We all do it.

**** me, that was you at West Brom!!!
I dont begrudge you wanting a good view but me and the old man were suicidal listening to your inane pedantry throughout the whole game, its a ****ing football match not a chance to validate an appearance on the Chase
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
**** me, that was you at West Brom!!!
I dont begrudge you wanting a good view but me and the old man were suicidal listening to your inane pedantry throughout the whole game, its a ****ing football match not a chance to validate an appearance on the Chase

My pedantry includes reading posts properly. You and the old man? I said a woman and her son.
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria
The answer, as ever, is to have official sitting and standing areas. Then those who wish to sit know where to go, and those who wish to stand know where to go. If people want to complain, then the best thing to do is turn it into a positive - that is, don't just complain, but come up with a solution that actually works. The more we tell the club(s) that we want standing areas, the more likely they will eventually be implemented.
 


chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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Yes. You're right. Let's argue about a scenario that didn't happen (aisles blocked, old man's walking stick chucked away) and add in yet more hypotheticals and assume that no Brighton fan would move away in that situation so medics can get to this non-existent fan.

Not arguing. Just pointing out , regardless of OPs true or not story that The stewarding at Southampton was poor, and that can be potentially dangerous .(access important for all sorts of reasons not just fire)
And standing in aisles to the extent of what happened at St Mary’s isn’t commonplace at away games.
 


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