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Ian Holloway



The Optimist

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Apr 6, 2008
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I have to say I agree with the Bosman ruling. Where else do you sign a contract, serve it and then find you are still controlled by it? As for the point about Man U paying £30m and losing him for free, well it's not Rooney's fault they paid £30m and surely what they were paying for was to release him from his contract with Everton, not to own him. If an increasing number of players leave on Bosmans it might actually start to bring some sanity to transfer fees.
 




Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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If an increasing number of players leave on Bosmans it might actually start to bring some sanity to transfer fees.

The Bosman ruling has been around for yonks, and you still get some BONKERS transfer fees paid. Clubs are just more careful to make sure their prize players are tied down by extending / enhancing their current contracts well before the contract is anywhere near expiring.

All this Bosman ruling has done is ensure that players are paid utterly OBSCENE amounts of cash now, either to extend their current deal, or by the club they move to for nothing, as what would have been paid as a transfer fee simply finds its way straight into theirs and their agents pockets.

In legal terms, of course players should be able to move freely when their contracts expire. But the end result is that this Bosman ruling really has f***ed football right up.
 
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Tim Over Whelmed

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his west country accent really kicked in there:eek: he was close to swearing a few times.top rant:bowdown:

He's one of the few managers that whenever interviewed you feel he's going to drop a swear word in, he's such a great footballing manager
 




drew

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Oct 3, 2006
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I disagree, the Bosman law has given players far too much power and goes a long way in explaining many of the things wrong with football.

What is wrong is that clubs chase the dream by paying high wages. Players can demand what they want but it is the clubs that pay it.

As for Holloway, I like him because he is entertaining but saying that you own someone, christ, what century does he think we are all living in.
 










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Player power is ruining the game for sure but that's the fault of the clubs for paying the ridiculous salaries. More clubs need to be taking stands against this and just let the select few get on with it until they run out of money. Then we would be back to the beautiful game. A starting point would be to give more money to grassroots football than the premiership.
 






kevtherev

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Feb 28, 2008
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Got to like the bloke. Says it as it is, got Blackpool playing great attacking football and not afraid to give anyone a game. Done it all on a shoestring. The funny thing is although he is obviously a top class manager, who knows how to get the best out of so called average players. He would never get a top job, just because he is Ian Holloway and top name players would not play for him. Thats a sad state of affairs but thats the premier league.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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i dont think he's picked the right fight. its the clubs and the the agents that have created too much player power. oh, and the money stupid.

they build up a players ego, they give them a massive contract then wonder why they want more.

Bosman? just makes the players have the same legal standing as any other employee. if the clubs want compensation for years of development and training, put in place pay back clauses in their contracts (just like other employees). Bosman has nothing to answer for, all the problems in football existed before.

UEFA and FIFA just make a lot of noise and dont do much but suffle deck chairs about. they have little real power, they know the big clubs/countries have them over a barrel if they demanded serious change.

agents though, they are the problem. a little word in the players inflated ego ear and they now want to move. like so many other forms of agent they serve little purpose and their main interest is themselves. a player needs some legal advice and that about it, they should be able to work out themself or with family if they need a move or wheres best (just like an normal employee...). its very interesting to note how many players they dont move around are represented by the PFA.
 
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Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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In a nutshell what did he say?
He said that Alex Ferguson was being bullied, and that FIFA and UEFA shouldn't allow it. Holloway was actually shouting. What an absolute twat. Ferguson isn't some little baby that can't look after himself. What exactly is the bullying? A player deciding that he'd like to work somewhere else. Fergie even had the cheek in the press conference to comment on the way the game is and how these players get paid vast sums of money - he gets paid more than they do!

If Fergie doesn't want players to leave, maybe he could show them some more respect, instead of always insisting that his cock is the biggest, and throwing shoes at them.
 






Castello

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May 28, 2009
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I'd have more respect for what Holloway said if he hadnt done the very thing hes berating rooney for himself, when he dumped Plymouth to manage Leicester. He left Plymouth for a club that would pay him more money and he thought would have more chance of success. Irony was he got them relegated.
 




Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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Got to like the bloke. Says it as it is, got Blackpool playing great attacking football and not afraid to give anyone a game. Done it all on a shoestring. The funny thing is although he is obviously a top class manager, who knows how to get the best out of so called average players. He would never get a top job, just because he is Ian Holloway and top name players would not play for him. Thats a sad state of affairs but thats the premier league.

Sums it up for me. Him and his club are surely THE biggest breath of fresh air ever to gust into The Premiership.
 




Lurker

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Mar 8, 2010
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I'd have more respect for what Holloway said if he hadnt done the very thing hes berating rooney for himself, when he dumped Plymouth to manage Leicester. He left Plymouth for a club that would pay him more money and he thought would have more chance of success. Irony was he got them relegated.

Dumped Plymouth?
Wasn't that the interview he did where he compared the Plymouth board to his wife?
Leicester asked for permission to speak to Holloway ... and the Plymouth board agreed?
Holloway compared that to another woman asking Holloway's wife if she could please see Ian .... and his wife saying yes!

Holloway said that would be a clear indication that his wife didn't love him anymore?

A brilliant analogy.
The guy is a media genius. :bowdown:
 




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