[Brighton] i360 filing for administration

[South Stand Bonfire]

If you look at the "Who we are page", they're either businessmen or ex-politicians (who more often than not are also quite into business..).

Not a single word about anyone having anything to do with history, cultural preservation or anything else related to what their supposed to do ("inform and eductate about this old pier").

When they sell the artifacts they're supposed to preserve, you might wonder what the purpose is. The real purpose.

(and before someone complains about my foreignhood: should have thought about that before you spent £46m for me to go up and down in this thing...)

The irony is that no “popular” commercial activity on the Pier was allowed before the fire occurred which effectively ended any hopes that it could have been preserved. The Pier may still have been doomed, but no commercial activity basically meant no investor was going to fund its restoration without hope of getting some return on its money. Then the cigarette is proposed as a commercial activity on a woefully optimistic business plan and look where we are now….

 

[Han Solo]

The irony is that no “popular” commercial activity on the Pier was allowed before the fire occurred which effectively ended any hopes that it could have been preserved. The Pier may still have been doomed, but no commercial activity basically meant no investor was going to fund its restoration without hope of getting some return on its money. Then the cigarette is proposed as a commercial activity on a woefully optimistic business plan and look where we are now….

Interesting. Why was no commercial activity allowed? Because the activities were part of the piers Grade I listing and wasn't to be "business as usual" if it disappeared, and thus the motivation to restore would decrease? Or why else?

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

Interesting. Why was no commercial activity allowed? Because the activities were part of the piers Grade I listing and wasn't to be "business as usual" if it disappeared, and thus the motivation to restore would decrease? Or why else?

Perhaps, but there has to be a balance and a degree of realism. By sticking to the “you are not doing that” approach, it led to further decline, no hope of any commercial investment and its current state. If you think about it, even the Victorians had their own commercial attractions on the Pier in its heyday.
p.s Little known fact, my late father saw “Carry on Girls” being filmed at the end of the West Pier in the early 1970s with Sid James driving a dodgers style car along the prom.

 

[Skaville]

Why demolish it? Whack a statue of Goldstone Gaz on the top and Brighton has its own Nelson’s column

 

[Han Solo]

Must say the whole pier thing (which I've read quite a lot about by now) reminds me of an old hostel in Lund, "La Strada".

It was abandoned for 30 years but had a "k-märkning", a "culture marking", which is the equivalent to a "Grade 1 listing".

This meant the city couldn't tear it down, and instead they largely ignored this old hostel just out of town.

Then suddenly the city (or rather the university but its the same shit here) wanted to build a "particle accelerator" just where the old hostel was. I saw several grand plans of restoring it and turning it into a "hotel for researchers" and what not, but reading through the lines the hostel was just really inconvenient and in the way of everything.

...then "luckily" someone put it on fire, making life a lot easier for politicians, city planners and investors alike...

 

[Pevenseagull]

Must say the whole pier thing (which I've read quite a lot about by now) reminds me of an old hostel in Lund, "La Strada".

It was abandoned for 30 years but had a "k-märkning", a "culture marking", which is the equivalent to a "Grade 1 listing".

This meant the city couldn't tear it down, and instead they largely ignored this old hostel just out of town.

Then suddenly the city (or rather the university but its the same shit here) wanted to build a "particle accelerator" just where the old hostel was. I saw several grand plans of restoring it and turning it into a "hotel for researchers" and what not, but reading through the lines the hostel was just really inconvenient and in the way of everything.

...then "luckily" someone put it on fire, making life a lot easier for politicians, city planners and investors alike...

Piers/ second hand car dealers/ whatever that ^ was catch fire a lot.
It's what they do.
Or did.
Then the insurance premiums went up and now they are are more expensive to insure than a 'cheap fireworks / amateur welding / discount tumble dryers, no questions asked' facility.

 

[jackalbion]

Must say the whole pier thing (which I've read quite a lot about by now) reminds me of an old hostel in Lund, "La Strada".

It was abandoned for 30 years but had a "k-märkning", a "culture marking", which is the equivalent to a "Grade 1 listing".

This meant the city couldn't tear it down, and instead they largely ignored this old hostel just out of town.

Then suddenly the city (or rather the university but its the same shit here) wanted to build a "particle accelerator" just where the old hostel was. I saw several grand plans of restoring it and turning it into a "hotel for researchers" and what not, but reading through the lines the hostel was just really inconvenient and in the way of everything.

...then "luckily" someone put it on fire, making life a lot easier for politicians, city planners and investors alike...

Yeah this usually happens to the Albion Hotel on Brighton seafront once every 5-10 years.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Must say the whole pier thing (which I've read quite a lot about by now) reminds me of an old hostel in Lund, "La Strada".

It was abandoned for 30 years but had a "k-märkning", a "culture marking", which is the equivalent to a "Grade 1 listing".

This meant the city couldn't tear it down, and instead they largely ignored this old hostel just out of town.

Then suddenly the city (or rather the university but its the same shit here) wanted to build a "particle accelerator" just where the old hostel was. I saw several grand plans of restoring it and turning it into a "hotel for researchers" and what not, but reading through the lines the hostel was just really inconvenient and in the way of everything.

...then "luckily" someone put it on fire, making life a lot easier for politicians, city planners and investors alike...

Burning down the West Pier was a very Noble idea (you won't get the reference but many will).

 

[stewart12]

Time for Tim Martin and the gang to step in and save it

Imagine the luxury of sipping on a £1.65 pint of Carling whilst being able to vaguely see the outline of the Isle of Wight

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Did you pay by credit card. If so and it's over £100, then S75 protection applies.

Thanks I was wondering about this. Do we have to wait until we get a cancellation email though, or can we make the claim and let the bank work it out?

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

Thanks I was wondering about this. Do we have to wait until we get a cancellation email though, or can we make the claim and let the bank work it out?

Contact your cc provider or bank by phone. Tell them that you paid for a service that was not provided. They may/should then put the payment on hold whilst they investigate the matter and will probably also send you a form to fill out and return.it may take a few weeks though to fully sort itself out.

 

[drew]

If it's gone into administration, surely they will look for a buyer who will offer 'x' pennies in the pound to the creditors. Alternatively, in lieu of the debt, can't the council take it over and run without the burden of the debt!!!

 

[oneillco]

Must say the whole pier thing (which I've read quite a lot about by now) reminds me of an old hostel in Lund, "La Strada".

It was abandoned for 30 years but had a "k-märkning", a "culture marking", which is the equivalent to a "Grade 1 listing".

This meant the city couldn't tear it down, and instead they largely ignored this old hostel just out of town.

Then suddenly the city (or rather the university but its the same shit here) wanted to build a "particle accelerator" just where the old hostel was. I saw several grand plans of restoring it and turning it into a "hotel for researchers" and what not, but reading through the lines the hostel was just really inconvenient and in the way of everything.

...then "luckily" someone put it on fire, making life a lot easier for politicians, city planners and investors alike...

Yes Brighton has had a number of mysterious development fires in the past, e,g, The Bedford Hotel, and some say Hove Town Hall. But the arson attack on the West Pier was to prevent it being restored and thereby providing competition for the Palace Pier. The i360 scheme did not materialise until several years later.

 

[Hometownglory]

Yes Brighton has had a number of mysterious development fires in the past, e,g, The Bedford Hotel, and some say Hove Town Hall. But the arson attack on the West Pier was to prevent it being restored and thereby providing competition for the Palace Pier. The i360 scheme did not materialise until several years later.

So depressing, the West Pier could have been a different and lovely attraction and nothing like the Palace Pier. The Palace Pier is full of sugar and tat. The West Pier could have been a lovely venue for events, dining and entertainment.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Apparently the i360 had 109 staff.

That feels like an awful lot of people?

 

[jackanada]

Apparently the i360 had 109 staff.

That feels like an awful lot of people?

Maybe 9 staff and 100 people on the books on zero hours contracts who mainly did zero hours.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Apparently the i360 had 109 staff.

That feels like an awful lot of people?

Not really. Ticket office staff, onboard staff plus 100 managers

 

[Mustafa II]

If they could expand the platform and add a toilet, it would give them a lot more options. The obvious one would be fine dining with a view, or bar.

It will never get the numbers it needs as a viewing tower alone.

Sadly, I predict that it will be left doing next to nothing for decades.

The one positive, it is an extremely visible reminder of one reason why we should NEVER vote in a Green council again. 5% increases in our council tax every year will largely be going towards this.

 

[stewart12]

Apparently the i360 had 109 staff.

That feels like an awful lot of people?

I imagine they had a lot of part time staff. Probably a good job for a uni/college student etc

 

[Dave the OAP]

Burning down the West Pier was a very Noble idea (you won't get the reference but many will).

Allegedly