Too old to argue with you.
I'm saying this from a non Christian point of view. I stated earlier in the thread that have no problem with the people who believe in the real reason for christmas, go ahead and celebrate, if i was a christian i would. I have been to church and attended a midnight mass, a number of years ago when i was young and i get what you mean but feel you may have mis-understood me.
I'm not digging at Christians here or in any way blaming them for christmas trees, santa and cards etc, i'm pointing a finger at the commercial side of the whole affair and just saying why?
I'm not a mean person and enjoy giving to my friends and family, but feel somewhat pushed this time of the year, for reasons that are so totally non religious.
I'd like nothing more than for you to enjoy christmas, but for the right reasons, not the modern commercial fake christmas.
Sorry if calling you a ball-bag offended you!
If you're not a Christian, then don't take part in it and respect those who enjoy it.
I'm not religious but, I love Xmas and the whole commercial side that goes with it.
I love the look on my kids face when they wake me up at half 6 Xmas day morning and the smell of fresh mince pies and sausage rolls that are cooking throughout the morning.
I also love the fact that it's the one time of the year my whole family can get together and have a good time!
and without Xmas, you'd not have Boxing day football - the best match of the year (even if the games are rubbish!!!)
"Ball bag."
Am I allowed to say that was funny too?!!!
Christmas becomes a bit more forced when there aren't any kids around and it's just adults swapping presents. Why don't you get yourself a kid for next year and see if it makes a difference? There are loads of them walking around and generally they are quite weak, you should be able to overpower them easy.