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I got into a punch up tonight
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sten_super
Brain Surgeon
In fairness, DtG, you haven't explained it overly clearly. You also seem rather confused about what constitutes a plastic fan.
The Chelsea fans that have been going since the 1970s are NOT plastic fans. People have all kinds of reasons for supporting various clubs.
The Chelsea fans that have started going in the past 5 (or so) years are RELATIVELY plastic. They've only started going now because it is fashionable and because they are good.
However, the ULTIMATE plastic fans are the ones that have become Chelsea fans in the past 5 (or so) years (or in fairness most people that have started 'supporting' a Premiership club since the inception of the Premiership), yet never actually go to a game, or even make an effort to go to a game; instead they sit in the pub with their mates in their replica shirts watching the game, because it is far too much effort to actually go to the game.
The Chelsea fans that have been going since the 1970s are NOT plastic fans. People have all kinds of reasons for supporting various clubs.
The Chelsea fans that have started going in the past 5 (or so) years are RELATIVELY plastic. They've only started going now because it is fashionable and because they are good.
However, the ULTIMATE plastic fans are the ones that have become Chelsea fans in the past 5 (or so) years (or in fairness most people that have started 'supporting' a Premiership club since the inception of the Premiership), yet never actually go to a game, or even make an effort to go to a game; instead they sit in the pub with their mates in their replica shirts watching the game, because it is far too much effort to actually go to the game.
Mendoza
NSC's Most Stalked
I remember the Wycombe fans singing this a while back 
Care free, whoever you maybe
Chelsea's got no history
So please sit down so I can see
The rest of the season on Sky TV
Care free, whoever you maybe
Chelsea's got no history
So please sit down so I can see
The rest of the season on Sky TV
Yeah, how did these people go to Albion AND Chelsea matches, in the pre-Gillingham days? (you f***ing liar)
I remember the Wycombe fans singing this a while back
Care free, whoever you maybe
Chelsea's got no history
So please sit down so I can see
The rest of the season on Sky TV
Or...
Carefree wherever you may be
We are the nouveau Chelsea FC
So please sit down
So my wife can see
We've been coming here since 2003
In my 10 year old son's class in Chandlers Ford [Hampshire] there are 10 boys.
1 x Albion
2 x Saints
1 x Chelsea
1 x Liverpool
3 x Manchester United
2 x no allegiance
The 3 United are 100% would I would deem plastic.
The Chelsea is a STH holder at Stamford Bridge, as his Dad is proper old school Chelsea. The Dad was in Moscow last night of course.
I'm impressed with the quality of the internet connection that The Complete Badger managed to get from his seat in the Luznikhy Stadium last night btw.
1 x Albion
2 x Saints
1 x Chelsea
1 x Liverpool
3 x Manchester United
2 x no allegiance
The 3 United are 100% would I would deem plastic.
The Chelsea is a STH holder at Stamford Bridge, as his Dad is proper old school Chelsea. The Dad was in Moscow last night of course.
I'm impressed with the quality of the internet connection that The Complete Badger managed to get from his seat in the Luznikhy Stadium last night btw.
Tyrone Biggums
Well-known member
Plastic fans are bandwaggoners to start with.
And as a rule bandwaggoners will support more than one team during their time.
Loyalty isn't a strong point of these people.
And as a rule bandwaggoners will support more than one team during their time.
Loyalty isn't a strong point of these people.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
The two with no allegience must be gayers.
Pretty pink fairy
Banned
- Jan 30, 2008
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this whole threads plastic , talk about a bunch of muppets ................. i got in a punch up 
we were in h bar in hove, only about 6 of us in the whole bar. some chelsea pissed up prick shouting all the way through the game was told several times to keep it down as was not a footie pub and only showing the game as we know the owner, eventually a mate of mine told him to f*** off out. left his chelsea top on the bar, which he came back for in the style of running into the pub with a bottle in his hand - i disarmed him and we all kicked him back out. then he came back offering us all out before running off....wanker from surrey!!!
ps. buzzer...did you get your coat back??
ps. buzzer...did you get your coat back??
Knotty
Well-known member
So only two of ten support their local team. It points to a problem in football but it doesn't make those boys or their parents sub-human species as some comments seem to indicate.
How do you MAKE new kids support their local team if that team is not successful? You can try, but it doesn't make them evil if they don't.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
You BEAT it into them. Its very easy when they're small.
Knotty
Well-known member
You're right easy...enough of sensible debate!
aftershavedave
Well-known member
i'm with many voices on this thread: it's not about winning, it's not even about major league competing, it's about supporting your local club. so my lads get to jin the junior seagulls aged 2 weeks, get the shirt etc and know that the albion are their local team. it's working so far (even though my eldest wanted to watch cartoons rather than the start of the chumpions league final.......)
BUT HOW MANY BRIGHTON GAMES HAVE YOU SEEN THIS SEASON?
(He will reply):thud:
Knotty
Well-known member
You did that, I did that and it worked. But what happens when they can make up their own minds? My lad carried on supporting the Albion, but plenty don't. What does a Dad do when his son says he wants to watch better football than he sees at the Albion. I have a friend who experienced just that. His son simply did not enjoy what Albion were serving up at the time and we were awful at the time!
You can tell them that it's not just about winning or playing in higher divisions, but if they don't agree there's not much you can do.
And how do you do it for kids whose parents haven't the least interest in football?
aftershavedave
Well-known member
obvious: you take the easy 10 option and beat it into them!
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
Going back to the original subject, who won the fight?
Knotty
Well-known member
That's funny but it isn't a serious answer to the problem is it? I am as concerned as anyone about the plastic fans situation, but just calling them names doesn't solve anything.
They won't care what anyone calls them. They have chosen to support a team and won't change because 'proper' fans despise them. Even if you hate their reasons, those reasons exist.
How do you change that? My view is that whatever high principles we might have about why one should support a team, many will follow success. I don't like it but don't think that will ever change.