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Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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The Tory candidate for Kemptown has been forced to resign over his support for the Falmer campaign.

Seemly he has been subject to a campaign of hate from a group of Tories objecting to the Falmer bid.

reading between the lines, they are unhappy about "match days" and the disruption it causes, which appears to be aimed at brighton and Hove Albion whereever they play.

Anyway, the standing MP, Carder? says that this is a prime example of why Albion fans must not vote Tory as this represents the Tories real views on falmer, not some T shirt wearing publicity stunts!

I do hope Prescott makes the decision before the election, or I do fear for the whole thing...especially if the current Socialist ( oops I am sorry, watered down Tory) party lose or there is a very close parliament.

dave the scoop
 




Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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Interesting. I was rung at home last night by someone representing the Tory candidate in my constituency (Brighton Pavillion). He asked me what I considered to be the most important issue was and I said "Getting the new stadium built at Falmer". He asked me if I would consider voting for his man and I said "If he was actively pro-Falmer I'd think about it". Ok, I'm not going to anyway but it was worth saying, after all they lie to us.
 




ManOnTheRun

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Jul 7, 2003
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West Hove
The standing MP for Kemptown is Des Turner.

This is a very good reason (in case you needed one) not to think about electing Tory MP's in any of the 3 Brighton constituences.

This guy, David Logan, has been forced out by senior members of the local Tory party, who despite recent claims of support, are against Falmer.



:tosser:
 


mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
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High up on the South Downs.
Not wishing to sound like a right-on Socialist Worker Party activist, but Falmer is partly a class issue. The wealthier sectors of society, the Tories and the Lib Dems and the middle class/hippy Greens are against Falmer.
For all its faults, the Labour Party is our only hope of getting it.

No I'm not a Labour member or supporter really.
 




Caveman

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Jul 14, 2003
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Interesting. I was rung at home last night by someone representing the Tory candidate in my constituency (Brighton Pavillion). He asked me what I considered to be the most important issue was and I said "Getting the new stadium built at Falmer". He asked me if I would consider voting for his man and I said "If he was actively pro-Falmer I'd think about it". Ok, I'm not going to anyway but it was worth saying, after all they lie to us.

Strange? Me too. I just hung up on them though.

I'll vote Labour, but if they haven't made a decision on the stadium I won’t vote at all. Be that the right or wrong way to go about it, that'll be what I'm doing and no one will persuade me otherwise.
 




I don't think it's his "support for Falmer" that has forced him out.

It's far more likely that he's got the push because he's useless and so far he has run a pathetic campaign.

If he supported Falmer, I guess we'd have noticed. Be honest, everyone ... Has ANY Albion fan ever heard of David Logan? Or seen him? Or read a single press release he's issued?

With a bit of luck, the Tories will now select Geoffrey Theobald as candidate for Kemptown. He might hold some unpleasant views, but he's local and much respected by Brighton Tories. And he supports the Falmer application - even if his agenda is mainly driven by a wish to return Withdean to being a sleepy athletics stadium.

And it will liven up the campaign. Des Turner and Geoffrey Theobald go back a long way. Turner HATES Theobald, almost as much as Theobald HATED Bellotti. Politics is so much more FUN when it turns NASTY.
 






Ex Shelton Seagull

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Jul 7, 2003
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Well I can be arsed to copy it.

Election hopeful David Logan was dropped by the Conservatives for backing the Falmer stadium bid.

The Tory candidate for Kemp Town in Brighton was forced to resign by members of his own party who are opposed to the proposed Brighton and Hove Albion stadium, it emerged today.

The association is split down the middle over the issue and it is understood the briefing against Mr Logan began when he appeared in The Argus last month with shadow sports minister Hugh Robertson backing the stadium.

Conservatives have agreed not to speak publicly about the reasons for Mr Logan standing down.

His supporters strongly denied suggestions Mr Logan had been sacked by Conservative Central Office because of a weak election campaign.

One senior party member said: "When David was effectively forced to resign he did so on the basis that there was a localised campaign.

"But there was a major falling out on one policy issue with a small number of people. It was about the Falmer stadium.

"The campaign team meeting was hijacked. There was a group of people who were very firmly against the bid and they called a motion of no confidence.

"They would not tolerate their candidate even having a view on the issue so David's position was impossible and he tendered his resignation."

The Kemp Town seat is among the Conservatives' target seats at the next election, along with Brighton Pavilion and Hove and Portslade.

Labour increased its majority at the last election to 4,922 after first snatching the constituency from the Tories at the 1997 election landslide.

The insider added: "I'm sure there was an element of the fact the selection process was very unpopular with the same group of people even before he arrived."

Mr Logan declined to comment further than his initial statement that there was "no scandal" attached to the resignation.

Brian Dando, the Conservative chairman in Kemp Town, said: "We had our regular campaign meeting when we review all activities of the campaign and we also look at policy issues. We did not get satisfaction from David Logan on some of these matters.

"We held a full meeting of the executive council. When Mr Logan was asked to speak, he read a prepared statement in which he tendered his resignation.

"Falmer was one of the issues we discussed. We have had a policy of being against Falmer as we feel match days will be a big problem in many parts of the constituency."

Albion are waiting for a decision from Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott about plans to build a 23,000 seat stadium on the edge of Falmer.

A public inquiry is expected to draw to a close next month after Mr Prescott ordered further investigation into alternative sites.

Conservative challengers for all three Labour-controlled seats in the city hoped to make political capital from the fact the Labour Government had stalled plans for a community stadium.

Mike Weatherley, the Tory candidate for the neighbouring Brighton Pavilion seat, confirmed the sacking of Mr Logan had not dented his support for the Falmer proposal.

He said: "I fully support Brighton and Hove Albion's bid to relocate to a new Falmer stadium - and even have the T-shirt to prove it."

Des Turner, the Labour MP for Kemp Town, said: "This all looks to be a bit of a shambles and puts any future candidate in a rather invidious position.

"If he fails to support Falmer, he will not be getting any votes from Albion fans but if he does back the proposal, he will lose the support of his own party.

"This also puts the lid on any suggestion Labour is trying to delay the inquiry or we are the ones not supporting Falmer.

"There is no mileage now for Albion supporters voting Tory."

A substitute candidate for Mr Logan will be chosen by the end of January as the expected date of the election of May 5 approaches.
 


Westdene Seagull

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Oct 27, 2003
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Lord Bracknell said:
Politics is so much more FUN when it turns NASTY.

It does indeed make more intresting but it achieves f*** all. The dire state of the country at the moment can mainly be blamed on politicians playground squablling. It's about time they all grew up, stopped following their party whip and instead followed their voters wishes.

That would of course include building a stadium as democratically requested by over 69,000 Brighton and Hove voters.
 


Bwian

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Jul 14, 2003
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Westdene Seagull said:
It does indeed make more intresting but it achieves f*** all. The dire state of the country at the moment can mainly be blamed on politicians playground squablling. It's about time they all grew up, stopped following their party whip and instead followed their voters wishes.

That would of course include building a stadium as democratically requested by over 69,000 Brighton and Hove voters.

What he said.
 


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