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I believe in a conspiracy to establish a New World Order - Am I Nuts?



Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,856
Au contraire. Quite the opposite. 500 years ago Witchcraft was considered mainstream enough that there was a specific act of Parliament in England, The Witchcraft Act of 1542, with similar laws enacted throughout Europe. This was overt State acknowledgement of the existence of devil worship. The contemporaries regarded as nutters would have been the likes of the Hussites and Cathars who preached against a corrupt state religion in favour of a personal God.

Bad analogy, Brovion.
Ah that just proves our ancestors were more clued up about the Satanic conspiracy that threatened them than we are about the, er, whoever or whatever it is, that's threatening us!
 




colinz

Banned
Oct 17, 2010
862
Auckland
Have camped at Ayres Rock before back in the day.

The Dingoes are quite timid, very easy to scare them off.

One got into a bin that had some scraps in it and was making a mess, had an old chicken carcass in it's mouth and when one of the campers approached it, it dropped the carcass and hit the bolt.

The dingoes plead innocent your honour.

Yeah, when ever my pet labrador sees a 3 month old baby he's so scared, he bolts it.
 


It always amazes me that these global conspirators are so powerful they can subvert the entire global economy and by stealth institute a nwo which will rule over all of us (and according to some wingnuts pave the way for the return of a mythical nazareene saviour) but they are not powerful enough to take out people like icke who are shouting about how the nwo is coming.

If I were that powerful the first thing I would do is neutralise all those who oppose me.

dingodan, try occams razor.

The nephilim did not exist. Nibiru is a myth. Weishaupt was just a law professor who liked secret societies. The queen is not a shape-shifting, blood-drinking, 10 foot tall space-traveling alien green lizard.

So on balance I would say yes, you are nuts.
 


dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
Wow, lots a crazy stuff thrown into the mix here! :flounce:

All I am saying is that apparently, according to our "leaders" its time for a world government, and I dont remember being asked about this by the political class, or having the media bring this to my attention. Kind of a big policy decision, and whose decision is it anyway?

If we have a global government structure, what if a nasty sort takes power? and is this government supposed to represent 6.5 - 7 Billion people?

My view is that people should be empowered at the local level, not managed at a global level.

The idea concerns me, the fact it appears to be being done without the consent of the people, or even any kind of debate, really concerns me. :glare:

This question is not to be confused with the issue of CIA trained reptillian freemasons with swine flu. :lol:
 


jimhigham

Je Suis Rhino
Apr 25, 2009
8,030
Woking
I've always bought into Ockham's Razor: that the simplest explanation is likely to be the correct one and I certainly can't see there being any shape-shifters out there.

However, 9/11 troubles me. I can't envisage the number of people being required to covertly bring down the towers all keeping quiet and the concept of a government being prepared to dispatch thousands of its own citizens doesn't seem to be a starter and yet...

Physics doesn't explain three towers falling that day. WTC7 fell within 70 feet of its own footprint without having been struck by an aircraft and with only two localised fires burning? What gets me about this is that the "truthers" are not entirely made up of internet crackpots. There are plenty of structural engineers, theoretical physicists and the like lining up to question this. There have been peer-reviewed papers on the subject.

I'm confused.com.
 




colinz

Banned
Oct 17, 2010
862
Auckland
Nobody thats posted on this thread so far believes in David Icke's Reptillian shape shifting crap. It doesn't need to be used to set up straw man arguements.

For those of you confused about 9/11 watch this, if only for the first 15 minutes a couple of times over.
It has some neat background music as well.[video]http://septemberclues.info/[/video]
 


8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
Moo head has disappeared who will be next?
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Those who believe in the nwo are often also those who believe in the reptilian conspiracy. Maybe you do not but many of your fellow travellers certainly do.

Do I think there is a global conspiracy to install a global government? Not a chance. Seriously, not one. Simply put too many people would have to have bought into this in order to set it up.
Do I think that certain people, like the Koch brothers, would love to have the ability to create such a thing if only so they could then push their wing-nut 'free market' policies onto the rest of the world with no ramifications? Yes, I do.

But I do not believe that Gordon Brown is involved in a global conspiracy. FFS, he can't even keep the rumours about his sexuality secret so how do you expect him to do so with his supposed involvement in the nwo.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,994
Physics doesn't explain three towers falling that day. WTC7 fell within 70 feet of its own footprint without having been struck by an aircraft and with only two localised fires burning? What gets me about this is that the "truthers" are not entirely made up of internet crackpots. There are plenty of structural engineers, theoretical physicists and the like lining up to question this. There have been peer-reviewed papers on the subject.

physics does explain the towers falling, the conspriacists have perpetuated a myth that its at free fall speed when it it not. The falls would be straight down due to no horizontal force being applied, and the "localised" fires where bloody big on the other side in footage the conspiracists ignore. if the buildings are suposed to have been demolished, where is the evidence of the detonation - more than one window blown out please. see some footage of demolishions to see the massive amount of visual evidence you'd expect. oh, thats right, they used thermite, which experts say has a shelf life of months (and how does this tally back to the single window blow out used as proof...). whatever the material used, when exactly was it installed, where is the simple evidence of whole floors being "refurbished" to allow the explosive/tnt/whatever to be put in place. and where is the miles of det cord used to trigger it all? and if WTC7 was used to oversee the WTC1+2 demolition, where was the WTC7 demolition overseen from? the "truthers" are made up of engineers and acedemics on the fringe of their professions, and for every one there are others who say it couldnt be done. so which to believe?

trust in the razor.
 






dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
Do I think there is a global conspiracy to install a global government? Not a chance. Seriously, not one. Simply put too many people would have to have bought into this in order to set it up.

Watch the quotes videos I posted on Page 2. They are all in on it, and selling it to us using clever (and sometimes not so clever) language.

This explains how and why things are the way the are in the west with our Coke Vs Pepsi politics, and this is the real nature of the New World Order and why it marches on successfully:

 












Oh for shit's sake. You are SERIOUSLY citing a ron paul speech as some kind of evidence? Ron f***ing paul. Are you for f***ing real?
I wouldn't believe it if that f***ing gimp told me it was sunny outside even if I were in the middle of the sahara at midday.

I will never convince you that they're not taking over the world to install the nwo but I will bet everything I own on one thing. This nwo you fear so much and which every wing-nut in the world blethers on about instead of getting on with living will not take over the world in my lifetime. Not will they in your lifetime. Nor will they in your childrens lifetime. Or in fact your grandchildrens lifetimes should you have any.

Now you can carry on with the crazy and worry about this nwo which you are so scared of for some reason or you can apply occam's razor and get on with your life.
 




i spent 18 months researching this......start with the FED, 911, monsanto, FDA, or the WTO,.....

the truth IS out there............along with lots of disinfo rubbish (planet x, aliens etc).

to start at square 1....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU


Can you do me a favour please? Can you point me to where you carried out your research? Peer reviewed journals will do. Or sensible papers written by scientists which back up the theories about, for example, the towers being brought down by controlled explosions. You tube videos quote mining and put together by tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists are not acceptable.

I have a degree in applied physics and I believe in the scientific method. Give me proof and I will believe you. Give me a load of wing-nut websites and I will carry on thinking that wing-nut conspiracy theorists are wing-nuts
 




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