Hypothetical question. Would you rather Oscar had stayed or are you happier with Sami?

[Mayonaise]

Whilst Oscar didn't seem to be able to bring many players of his choosing so it's a little unfair to judge, I was bored shitless last season by his negative tactics.

We did brilliantly in terms of league position with the squad we had but it was like watching paint dry at times.

 

[Icy Gull]

A manager who rarely trained the players, was uncontactable on transfer deadline day and oversaw a regime where medical staff were ignored and players over-trained to the point of injury or Sami Hyypia?

Tough one that.

Now that is interesting...he rarely trained the players but saw to it that they were over-trained?

 

[Rookie]

A manager who rarely trained the players, was uncontactable on transfer deadline day and oversaw a regime where medical staff were ignored and players over-trained to the point of injury or Sami Hyypia?

Tough one that.

Over-trained or rarely trained the players? Surely can't be both?
All a very one sided argument

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Over-trained or rarely trained the players? Surely can't be both?
All a very one sided argument

I know nothing, but could be both. He may not have got involved much in day-to-day training himself (always rings alarm bells for me) while telling his coaches to over-train tne squad.

 

[Icy Gull]

I know nothing, but could be both. He may not have got involved much in day-to-day training himself (always rings alarm bells for me) while telling his coaches to over-train tne squad.

So the background checks that the club pride themselves on are not all that then? You'd think they'd pick up on the fact that the manager was a lazy toad who skipped training but ensured over-training. I think we are being fed the club line hook line and sinker with no input whatsoever from the man who CHOSE to walk. It seems strange to me that most don't seem to want to know WHY he walked and accept that he was really quite shit at the job, even though he got us to the playoffs with no transfers of note and terrible injuries. Hmmm

 

[Tricky Dicky]

So the background checks that the club pride themselves on are not all that then? You'd think they'd pick up on the fact that the manager was a lazy toad who skipped training but ensured over-training. I think we are being fed the club line hook line and sinker with no input whatsoever from the man who CHOSE to walk. It seems strange to me that most don't seem to want to know WHY he walked and accept that he was really quite shit at the job, even though he got us to the playoffs with no transfers of note and terrible injuries. Hmmm

Hey, don't involve me, I said I know nothing. I just picked up on a gramatical point. Personally, I never warmed to him, but that means diddly.

 

[sparkie]

The thing that has never added up is that the club specifically said they tried to change Oscar's mind about leaving.

If he was so terrible why would they bother ?

Either they did as they said and tried to change his mind, or they didn't ( because he was so awful ) - which means they in fact mislead us originally

 

[Perkino]

Where's the option for Gus?

 

[fleet]

A manager who rarely trained the players, was uncontactable on transfer deadline day and oversaw a regime where medical staff were ignored and players over-trained to the point of injury or Sami Hyypia?

Tough one that.

Interesting!

 

[Biscuit]

I'm so glad Oscar has gone.

Dull and uninspiring. His football was even worse.

 

[Stat Brother]

A manager who rarely trained the players, was uncontactable on transfer deadline day and oversaw a regime where medical staff were ignored and players over-trained to the point of injury or Sami Hyypia?

Tough one that.

Assuming that's all true and not 'history being written by the winners', it making Oscar's over achievement, with an injury ravaged squad, all the more impressive.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Just out of interest. There were a lot of anti Oscar posters on here by the end of last season. We know pretty well nothing about Sami as a manager. So who would you prefer if you had a choice?

Difficult to say until the season is in full swing. I was full of support for Oscar until February, but then enough was enough, injuries or not the football was dire the vast majority of the time IMO.

I think we'll be more attacking with Sami and at the very least get numbers in the box, as we stand its difficult to say who I prefer, but if pushed I would go with Sami, because by the end I'd had enough of Oscar.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Over-trained or rarely trained the players? Surely can't be both?
All a very one sided argument

I said before that Nathan Jones did a lot more with the team than fans gave him credit for. He had to.

 

[Biscuit]

So the background checks that the club pride themselves on are not all that then? You'd think they'd pick up on the fact that the manager was a lazy toad who skipped training but ensured over-training. I think we are being fed the club line hook line and sinker with no input whatsoever from the man who CHOSE to walk. It seems strange to me that most don't seem to want to know WHY he walked and accept that he was really quite shit at the job, even though he got us to the playoffs with no transfers of note and terrible injuries. Hmmm

You and I both know how anti Oscar I was (and still am!) but you're 100% right in regard we are now being fed the club line. Never trained his players? Over trained his players? Then why on earth did Bloom ask him to sleep on it? Surely he would have grabbed the resignation letter with both hands!

Oscar's football was dull as dishwater and I'm glad he's off but this stinks of the club subtly allowing anti Oscar spin to spread,

 

[Icy Gull]

I wonder how the voting would go if we did this again


There are some quite interesting comments on this thread, the early days of down playing Oscar's achievements

 

[Icy Gull]

I'm so glad Oscar has gone.

Dull and uninspiring. His football was even worse.

I'll be so glad when Hyypia is gone for EXACTLY the same reasons

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

I'd rather Oscar had wanted to stay, as I thought he did well with the resources he had last year, and we wouldn't be starting from scratch again.

But given that he left, I'm completely happy with Sami joining.

On that basis, F off stupid poll

I cant agree more!

 

[albionite]

Come back Oscar all is forgiven.

 

[Bozza]

I'm going to close this and post a duplicate poll. The contrast will be quite striking, I think.