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Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
31,044
Bexhill-on-Sea
I do fixed Mon and Tue at home, Wed,Thu,Fri in office. I can usually swap days if necessary but when I take holiday it didn't change my days or anything
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
15,365
Cumbria
The days in the office are FAR less productive once all the chit chat has been done....
This.

Even with time out on NSC (which I don't do in the office) I get far more done at home. Quite simply - 6 Music is less distracting than people wandering in and out, through to make drinks, chatting about all sorts of nonsense - and so on. But a couple of days a week in there is essential - just to nip problems in the bud before they become an issue, and to pick stuff up through osmosis.

Hybrid is definitely the way.
 


dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,623
London
I'm in finance and only one day a week. Think this will change soon which will be in line with the rest of the city, at least 3 days in. I'm happy with that tbh I live in zone 1 so easy enough to come in and I like the human interaction in person.

Since COVID some Muppets have moved from Surrey, Kent etc to bloody Devon, Cornwall etc. they will be screwed ! But what did they expect, London pays a hell of a lot more than the rest of the country so the companies should ask you to come in if they want.
 






S'hampton Seagull

Well-known member
Oct 12, 2003
7,000
Southampton
2 days in, 3 at home. We have to be at 40% attendance over the month though, and any leave or sickness aren't counted. Only a mentalist would include them.
 








Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
20,217
Valley of Hangleton
Home work here.

Used to be full time in the office pre COVID and looking back it's genuinely a wonder I got anything done.

I find the office environment with people moving about, stopping for chats etc etc intensely distracting.
Do you ever pop out during your working day now that you work from home or do you stay at your desk apart from loo visits and lunch breaks like you use to at work?
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
57,979
Faversham
I am required to be in London only when I have contact teaching. This time of year it is 2-3 days a week.
One day next week I will need to travel 90 minutes to deliver a 40 minute tutorial where attendance could be as low as 3 students
(one colleague recently had none turn up - but it was a nine O'clock).
I could do the tutorial online but we are told 'this is not an on-line university'.
That was the mantra during covid when the college shat itself over demands for fees to be returned.

Some colleague think it is wonderful being on campus.
The students don't.
We are required to record all lectures for 'revision' using lecture capture.
So loads of students get up late and watch for the first time on their phone.

I am 20% retired but work 5-6 days a week instead of the 4 I am contracted to work.
This is partly because, as a uni academic I have several side hustles.

Management leave me alone by and large.
I do all the data returns for hours, student feedback, reflections on the academic year and all that bollocks...
that nobody reads.

A mate of mine works for Big Pharma in the US. He moved job just before Covid.
They expected him in so he had to rent (this is California - expensive).
After Covid he moved to Phoenix (cheap housing) and flies in for a day or two each month.
Unless you are a lab worker it serves no purpose to ram people into office space.

I agree with others who suggest that companies want staff on site these days because they rent or own too much office space they can't shift.

I would estimate there are less than 50% commuting into London compared with pre covid.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,579
Location Location
The only thing I'm going to miss from our office is the handicapped toilet. It was vast, and spotlessly clean. A truly wondrous venue for a luxurious solo release, none of this trap 1, trap 2 nonsense. In the summer I'd often combine it with the ice cream van when it came round, making a dash when I heard the chimes in the car park. A cola Calippo and a browse of the phone whilst on the pan was a lovely little mid-afternoon break.

Sigh. Those days are gone.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
57,979
Faversham
Home work here.

Used to be full time in the office pre COVID and looking back it's genuinely a wonder I got anything done.

I find the office environment with people moving about, stopping for chats etc etc intensely distracting.
Yes, when I go in I spend at least as much time chatting as I do working.
That said, I don't do NSC from the office whereas I have been known to log on during the day when I am at home....
 


Clive Walker

Stand Or Fall
Jul 5, 2011
3,671
Brighton
I do 3 days in the office and 2 at home……generally.

However, things are coming under more scrutiny.

If I take 2 days annual leave my companies expectation is for me to work in the office the remaining 3 days. Previously I might have popped in for 1 or 2.

What’s the norm?
Found some further guidance in the policy.

"This expectation does not include weeks where colleagues take vacation, personal or sick time."

Thats positive but it doesn't say how many days I should be in the office should I take 2 days leave. I'll go with zero!
 




Clive Walker

Stand Or Fall
Jul 5, 2011
3,671
Brighton
while we're on the subject of WFH vs being in the office ..........the only thing that I struggle with is that gropping in the kitchen is frowned upon in the office while its 'mostly' accepted at home (with the wife).
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
57,979
Faversham
I've been doing M,T and Th in the office, WFH on W and F. There was never any fannying about "making up" office days if any were taken as leave, that is just weapons-grade GOONERY. Whoever came up with that needs a dry slap.

Thrillingly though, the lease on our office in Haywards Heath runs out later this year and they've decided not to renew it (there was only about 10 of us rattling about anyway). So as of last week, I am now WFH all week, except for 1 day a month when I have to yomp up to our London head office in EC4 for the day, which is going to be the last Thursday in every month. LOVELY.

I was a bit shocked to see that an on-peak one day Travelcard from Portslade weighs in at £70.20, mind. Kinell!!
But I can claim it back on expenses.
When I have to travel in peak times I buy a ordinary single (£33) plus a super off peak return with senior rail card (£16) rather than an ordinary return (for which travel cards cannot be applied) which is about £60.

I try to arrange contact teaching and meetings starting no earlier than midday then my commute costs me a mere £16.

And to think that ten years ago I was buying an annual first class season ticket (the last one cost around £7K).
There is no first class anymore on my line so that's not even an issue anymore.
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,844
I'm a weirdo that prefers full time office work. None of the hybrid stuff for me.
I think I'm the same.

I changed jobs a couple of years ago, with the nearest office over 1.5 hours away. Took the job with the knowledge and WfH being fully OK, albeit ideally to go in at least once a week.

Due to the time (and cost) I'm definitely inclined to lot go in and am WfH at least 4 days a week, but this is affecting my state of mind / mental health and productivity. If my office was 20/30 mins away would be in much more.

A couple of other factors that mean WfH is not ideal in this case, but think I am going to have to change jobs so that I can be in the office more...
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,579
Location Location
When I have to travel in peak times I buy a ordinary single (£33) plus a super off peak return with senior rail card (£16) rather than an ordinary return (for which travel cards cannot be applied) which is about £60.

I try to arrange contact teaching and meetings starting no earlier than midday then my commute costs me a mere £16.

And to think that ten years ago I was buying an annual first class season ticket (the last one cost around £7K).
There is no first class anymore on my line so that's not even an issue anymore.
Thanks. I'm sure if I fished around I could probably get it cheaper (I need to use the Circle & District line too). But its only once a month, and although I have to stump it up, I do get it back on expenses within a week or so, so no biggee.

As an aside, I'll be getting the 6.45 or 7.15 from Portslade. Anyone know if I'm likely to get a SEAT ? I'm a peak-time virgin, you see.
 




Hometownglory

Well-known member
Jan 12, 2014
863
Jeez, lots of office workers here. What does everyone do?

My sister in law mainly WFH and spends most of the time watching box sets and chilling out ha
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,327
West, West, West Sussex
I go into office twice a week, Weds & Thurs and wfh Mon, Tues & Fri

If I book an office day off then I don’t generally compensate by going in on one of my wfh days.

I do however make sure any doctors appointments etc I always book for one of my wfh days.

As an aside, I have noticed my usual train up to Victoria is noticeably busier so far this year than it used to be. Maybe people are returning to offices.
 


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