human rights
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martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
The moment you are refused the vote you lose control of who makes the decisions, it's a basic human right people have fought and died for.
My sister in law was raped and left for dead in 1983, and although she survived, that episode utterly ruined my wife's family. The bloke who did it was a serial offender and is serving 6 life sentences I think. Yet he is now housed in some sort of open prison set up apparently.
But Jesus Christ, yours is an awful story. My heartfelt sympathies go out to you for that.
burnee54
East Upper Hermit
Really sorry to hear your sister-in-laws story Sinister.
My sister died 30 years ago but it still hurts like an open wound whenever I read or hear of violence to a woman.
I still say they should die along with people who molest children. What use are they to society? I strongly resent the amount of my hard earned taxes that go towards keeping them alive.
So I have more human rights than a 7 year old? Or a 12 year old?
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
You really want me to answer that frankly stupid response?
Why is it stupid? That is what you are saying.
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
There is a difference between an adult and a child, you know that, the rights that apply to adults do not apply to children as they are deemed to young to understand fully them.
- Jul 7, 2003
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2 women die every week in this country at the hands of their partners. I would be quite strongly against most of those incidents being branded "crimes of passion".
Goldstone Rapper
Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Surely, by definition, if they can be revoked for some humans, they aren't human rights at all?
You are confusing Human Rights and The Franchise. They are not the same thing. Stoo82 was reminding us that our laws are more than 1,000 years old when he said "we have had rights in England for near 1000 years". He did not say we have had "human rights in England . . ."
As to the vote, or franchise, it was originally given to those who paid taxes, which women did not, because they could not own property. Neither did the poor get the vote, because they paid few taxes. Eventually, during the 19th century, the franchise grew until all men received the vote, regardless of their class or status. (The exceptions were and are those in prison and peers.) As you implicitly point out, it was not until 1914 that all women over the age of 30 received the vote, and not until 1928 that women over the age of 21 could vote. Women in Switzerland had to wait until 1971 until they got the vote, so everything is relative.
Irrelevant. It's not the same thing.
But it's not the only Human Right. (Although many people seem to include their wants and wishes as "rights".)