[Albion] Hughton Article in the Argus today.

[Mellotron]

It's that last bit that completely riles me, if we were beaten by a better side on the day, having put up a hell of a fight and tried as hard as we possibly could, then fair enough, but we were beaten before we even kicked off.

Absolutely. I'd rather go down swinging than go down with a whimper.

 

[ROSM]

I genuinely think this is a big clue to things not being right. The idea of Bloom and Hughton falling out seemed utterly ludicrous just weeks (maybe even days) ago. Bloom won't be happy about this UNLESS he is thinking the same, if he is what of Winstanley? It's revealing a crack, somewhere.

As In understand it, Hughton says the type of player he wants (e.g a ball playing centre half). Winstanley advises who they know of /have scouted that fits the bill. Its assessed for what it does with age profile, home grown player rules etc and a short list is agreed. Bloom and Barber agree the budget etc and barber and winstanley then go do the business.

So unless Hughton said I want a winger who cant cross or shoot and doesnt track back, then its fair to say that Ali J will be a disappointment to him and maybe the other 3 too

 

[Mellotron]

As In understand it, Hughton says the type of player he wants (e.g a ball playing centre half). Winstanley advises who they know of /have scouted that fits the bill. Its assessed for what it does with age profile, home grown player rules etc and a short list is agreed. Bloom and Barber agree the budget etc and barber and winstanley then go do the business.

So unless Hughton said I want a winger who cant cross or shoot and doesnt track back, then its fair to say that Ali J will be a disappointment to him and maybe the other 3 too

It's a really bizarre one. Ali isn't even a winger.

 

[SeagullDubai]

The trouble is to fans, our plight really means everything..... To a lot of the players it doesn't much, it's just a job where I get paid either way...... no doubt players agents are already considering the "where next" should we go down.

If you are right and the bulk of the players really don't give a sh#t ( and the performances do indicate tgat) then they gave let the fabs down badly. Just started watching 'Sunderland till I die'. Early days but it seems very close to hone

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[Pavilionaire]

It's that last bit that completely riles me, if we were beaten by a better side on the day, having put up a hell of a fight and tried as hard as we possibly could, then fair enough, but we were beaten before we even kicked off.

I thought the first 20 minutes was OK but as soon as Cardiff went 1-0 up we got progressively worse. You get that sort of reaction when a team knows it doesn't have two goals in them against anyone.

 

[the right footed denilson]

It's a really bizarre one. Ali isn't even a winger.

He's a number 10 isn't he?
And we need a number 10....

This has been one hella confusing season!!

 

[Mellotron]

He's a number 10 isn't he?
And we need a number 10....

This has been one hella confusing season!!

Imagine playing Frank Lampard as a defensive winger on his wrong foot and wondering why a clearly gifted footballer looks shit.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

It's a really bizarre one. Ali isn't even a winger.

Indeed, he was by far and away the leading scorer in the Eridvisie last season, so what does Hughton do as soon as he arrives at the Amex?

That's correct, play him out on the wing.

 

[BensGrandad]

He's a number 10 isn't he?
And we need a number 10....

This has been one hella confusing season!!

Where does it come from that he is a No10? Is he not more a player in the mould of Son at Spurs but not as good.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Imagine playing Frank Lampard as a defensive winger on his wrong foot and wondering why a clearly gifted footballer looks shit.

He's been tried this season as a no.10, on the left on the right, just accept he's crap. I can imagine playing Lampard in goal and he'd make a better fist of the position than Ali J currently is.

 

[the right footed denilson]

Where does it come from that he is a No10? Is he not more a player in the mould of Son at Spurs but not as good.

Son is MUCH quicker so can go inside AND outside.
Who is he like? DARREN CURRIE but not as good.

 

[Mellotron]

He's been tried this season as a no.10, on the left on the right, just accept he's crap. I can imagine playing Lampard in goal and he'd make a better fist of the position than Ali J currently is.

He played Ali in his correct position ONCE (West Brom FA Cup replay). He played well there.

 

[ROSM]

He played Ali in his correct position ONCE (West Brom FA Cup replay). He played well there.

His last season in holland he went from a number 9 to a number 7

 

[Mellotron]

His last season in holland he went from a number 9 to a number 7

From the highlight reels of his goals he appeared to be playing overwhelmingly as a 10, behind the striker. Much like Propper has done to good effect for Holland.

 

[the right footed denilson]

He looked very quick in those highlights reels.

 

[Bold Seagull]

His last season in holland he went from a number 9 to a number 7

He was a winger when he arrived in Holland, think it was NEC that played him as a more forward player, and he reverted to winger where I think he mostly turns out for his country.

We have the same issue with people thinking Propper is a no.10 because he played the attacking role twice for Holland.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

From the highlight reels of his goals he appeared to be playing overwhelmingly as a 10, behind the striker. Much like Propper has done to good effect for Holland.

So that provokes another question does it not? why isn't Davy Propper occupying that position for us? We know he has goals in him, he has scored a fair few for his country when playing as a number 10, and it's very much what's missing from our team, goals. Gross hasn't been able to come up with the goals he got last season having been missing through injury, and we have the poosibility of playing Propper further up the pitch now that Bissouma has joined us to slot in behind.

 

[Bold Seagull]

From the highlight reels of his goals he appeared to be playing overwhelmingly as a 10, behind the striker. Much like Propper has done to good effect for Holland.

See above. Propper played twice for Holland as a no.10, twice, it wasn't even a genuine no.10 as they were playing 3 at the back. There is genuine delusion befalling people at the moment. I would expect a decent enough no.10 to be able to contribute to a game of football, whether no.7, 10, 11 or no.9. He's shown nothing.

 

[the right footed denilson]

See above. Propper played twice for Holland as a no.10, twice, it wasn't even a genuine no.10 as they were playing 3 at the back. There is genuine delusion befalling people at the moment. I would expect a decent enough no.10 to be able to contribute to a game of football, whether no.7, 10, 11 or no.9. He's shown nothing.

Ali or Propper?

 

[Mellotron]

See above. Propper played twice for Holland as a no.10, twice, it wasn't even a genuine no.10 as they were playing 3 at the back. There is genuine delusion befalling people at the moment. I would expect a decent enough no.10 to be able to contribute to a game of football, whether no.7, 10, 11 or no.9. He's shown nothing.

What would your rationale therefore be, if when he leaves us he reverts back to being the effective attacking player he was before he joined us?