[Misc] HR / work question…

[lost in london]

Life is so much less complicated on a construction site. Gaffer ‘What **** f***ed that up’ oh that was the plumbers .. pause ‘wankers’

As if. The only one thing you can bank on with builders is that it isn't their fault, it was someone else!

 

[BNthree]

It´s pretty weak management.

This. Crap manager not managing.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Life is so much less complicated on a construction site. Gaffer ‘What **** f***ed that up’ oh that was the plumbers .. pause ‘wankers’

You are on thinner than thin ice, typical blame the plumbers

 

[Justice]

You are on thinner than thin ice, typical blame the plumbers

I knew that would rise you

 

[Monkey Man]

Glad I'm not in these environments any more but I do remember how easy, and common, it was for HR departments and higher-ups in general to destroy goodwill with actions like this.

I made all kinds of mistakes when I was managing a team. I was fairly young and didn't have any real management training. But I quickly worked out that the more trust you gave people, and the less you were on their case with petty stuff, the more effort they put in, the more valued they felt, and the happier everyone was. More productive too.

 

[wunt be druv]

On the subject of all things H.R. etc...where my Wife works the manager has introduced a "Wall of Shame" on it she has put everybody's name and puts a black mark against their name every time they take any time off sick or for bereavement, does any one out there in NSC land know where this stands as far as employment rights etc.? Obviously all the staff are totally p****d with this.

 

[happypig]

I had a manager like that once, would never pick up individuals (usually on minor mistakes) but would send a moany email to all.

After a couple of months I told him, "Brian, if it's me, tell me, otherwise f*ck off with these shotgun bollockings."

 

[pasty]

On the subject of all things H.R. etc...where my Wife works the manager has introduced a "Wall of Shame" on it she has put everybody's name and puts a black mark against their name every time they take any time off sick or for bereavement, does any one out there in NSC land know where this stands as far as employment rights etc.? Obviously all the staff are totally p****d with this.

That is f***ing disgraceful and would be really surprised if it wasn’t against employment rights

 

[Washboard Didgets]

On the subject of all things H.R. etc...where my Wife works the manager has introduced a "Wall of Shame" on it she has put everybody's name and puts a black mark against their name every time they take any time off sick or for bereavement, does any one out there in NSC land know where this stands as far as employment rights etc.? Obviously all the staff are totally p****d with this.

I just read your post to my wife who has worked in HR for over 20 years... she said it sounds like your wife and her colleagues have grounds for a collective grievance.

 

[Badger]

On the subject of all things H.R. etc...where my Wife works the manager has introduced a "Wall of Shame" on it she has put everybody's name and puts a black mark against their name every time they take any time off sick or for bereavement, does any one out there in NSC land know where this stands as far as employment rights etc.? Obviously all the staff are totally p****d with this.

I would suggest your wife and her colleagues put up a "wall of c***s" with just one name on it.

 

[jordanseagull]

On the subject of all things H.R. etc...where my Wife works the manager has introduced a "Wall of Shame" on it she has put everybody's name and puts a black mark against their name every time they take any time off sick or for bereavement, does any one out there in NSC land know where this stands as far as employment rights etc.? Obviously all the staff are totally p****d with this.

So mental I can scarcely believe it's true, but it must be as you'd have no reason to lie! A collective grievance issue for sure, and this person should be sacked on the spot. Report, report, report.

 

[Chicken Run]

I just read your post to my wife who has worked in HR for over 20 years... she said it sounds like your wife and her colleagues have grounds for a collective grievance.

I’ve just read that post also to my wife and whilst she thinks it’s shocking she doesn’t believe there’s a wall big enough in her place of work

 

[raymondo]

It all went wrong when Personnel was replaced by Human Remains. It gave them power.

"There's nothing Human about Human Resources "

 

[Acker79]

Perhaps there is a concern that the person who has being doing it wrong has advised others about their easier/quicker way of doing things, and by sending to everyone it nips that in the bud.

 

[dazzer6666]

On the subject of all things H.R. etc...where my Wife works the manager has introduced a "Wall of Shame" on it she has put everybody's name and puts a black mark against their name every time they take any time off sick or for bereavement, does any one out there in NSC land know where this stands as far as employment rights etc.? Obviously all the staff are totally p****d with this.

Justifiable cause for a formal grievance in any half-decent company. Sounds like a right ****.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Agree it's really weak management and possibly means they're afraid to confront the source of the issue. I would ideally speak to the sender directly asking them to confirm what my personal involvement and/or responsibility in whatever the issue was, and if there is none ask that I'm not included in such emails as they're causing unnecessary worry and stress. If you can't speak to them, or would prefer a record, reply to the email......

Exactly THIS

Show/tell me what I've done wrong - if I haven't done anything wrong - please refrain from sending me any messages suggesting that I have.

 

[Giraffe]

Out of interest is this public sector or private sector?

 

[keaton]

On the original point without knowing what the errors were or how it was phrased I'm not sure I can see any reason to get worked up and worred. They may know/suspect who did it but be concerned about general training/understanding and want to clear that up.

 

[bluenitsuj]

You don't work for the NHS by any chance?

 

[portslade seagull]

This use to happen all the time in my office. Rather than go for the person/ persons guilty as charged a general e- mail would go out from the senior manager onsite to all staff basically warning us all. The union would also protect them if they were members and HR always adhered to this method so it seemed a closed shop. This was a company with over 120,000 staff.