How to buy a football club..Channel 4 now

[fosters headband]

No one would be happy with that but why would we turn on the board? The budget is easily competitve enough to survive in this league. It would be the manager if anyone that gets turned on but as it's a club legend in charge i can't see that happening and i don't think it will, our squad is taking shape and i think a decent season can be expected.

I see the wonderful South African international has been sent home so you are still in the position of having just one CD.
Just out of interest, how much exactly is DF's competative budget?

 

[5 Zero]

I see the wonderful South African international has been sent home so you are still in the position of having just one CD.
Just out of interest, how much exactly is DF's competative budget?

Centre back is a real concern, i must admit. But apparently the Gardner deal could be back on, if we can get him i'd be delighted. I don't know the exact figures of the budget but it's meant to be about the same as what Norwich or Swansea had last season according to Steve Browett. And those 2 teams did alright didn't they...

 

[Seagull1967]

Oh dear, I know you're desperate to get one over on us but that's just sad. What Parish has said is exactly what Palace fans want to hear:

1. CPFC2010 would be willing to sell but only to a party that can prove they have the funds to take us to a higher level than 2010 are currently capable of.

2. If the 3rd party proved they had the clubs best interests at heart, not some knock-off Nigel looking to make a quick buck, CPFC 2010 would be happy to consider selling

You cannot get any guarentees on point 2 and even point 1 is still risky. Your board could sell the club on faith and then have the rug pulled from underneath you a year or two down the line. If the board loves a club that much they would not sell but look at ways of bringing in other parties while still having control. Then all concerned would make sure the club is running effectively and within budget.

 

[Seagull1967]

Lets be honest from a football fans point of view it is a bit of a lottery who you get to run your club no matter how big or small you are! The biggest loser is the football fan as they are the ones who put life and sole into a club. It is very rare that an owner can say that!

 

[cjd]

Lets be honest from a football fans point of view it is a bit of a lottery who you get to run your club no matter how big or small you are! The biggest loser is the football fan as they are the ones who put life and sole into a club. It is very rare that an owner can say that!

Absolutely this...!

Cannot tell you how disappointed I was seeing the C4 programme the other evening. The average football supporter is just being taken for a ride...helped by utter scum like Bryan Robson.

Sadly the FA seems toothless....and the Football League bosses clearly have insufficient funds to really find out who owns what club. For all the money spent on players transfer fees and wages, a higher proportion than at present, should be spent on the Football League. Football should 'belong' to supporters...not crooks from the far-east.

PS: Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Crawley Town look exactly the sort of model 'purchased' by the faceless people from the far east.

 

[fosters headband]

Centre back is a real concern, i must admit. But apparently the Gardner deal could be back on, if we can get him i'd be delighted. I don't know the exact figures of the budget but it's meant to be about the same as what Norwich or Swansea had last season according to Steve Browett. And those 2 teams did alright didn't they...

I am not having a go at you but we have had knobs on here saying we spent our entire budget on CMS, how do they know what our budget is. Us Brighton fans don't know how much Poyet can spend.
How does any fan know what the managers budget for signings are and I do feel at times that chairman use this to their advantage.
Our last chairman always stated we had a competitive budget to the other teams in our league, but we ran on freebies and loan deals.
Now your Steve Parish stated when sacking Burley that he (Burley) refused to spend any money on players. Now I find this very hard to believe due to a manager being judged on results why would he not bring in players if the budget were there.
Now Parish is saying Freedman has the same as Norwich and Swansea did last season. How does Parish know what they budgeted. We do know that Norwich was spending as if it was going out of fashion and offered us a million for Bennett.
So if Freedman has that sort of money available why is he not splashing the cash so as not to risk the same criticism as Burley from Parish?
I just feel that club chairman can and do hang managers out to dry to save their own faces at times.

 

[5 Zero]

I am not having a go at you but we have had knobs on here saying we spent our entire budget on CMS, how do they know what our budget is. Us Brighton fans don't know how much Poyet can spend.
How does any fan know what the managers budget for signings are and I do feel at times that chairman use this to their advantage.
Our last chairman always stated we had a competitive budget to the other teams in our league, but we ran on freebies and loan deals.
Now your Steve Parish stated when sacking Burley that he (Burley) refused to spend any money on players. Now I find this very hard to believe due to a manager being judged on results why would he not bring in players if the budget were there.
Now Parish is saying Freedman has the same as Norwich and Swansea did last season. How does Parish know what they budgeted. We do know that Norwich was spending as if it was going out of fashion and offered us a million for Bennett.
So if Freedman has that sort of money available why is he not splashing the cash so as not to risk the same criticism as Burley from Parish?
I just feel that club chairman can and do hang managers out to dry to save their own faces at times.

I don't think i'll be able to answer that till the window shuts at the end of January, only then will we be able to see how much we had to spend. So far, 3 players have come in and one of them was for half a million. The other two, i would imagine got a decent signing on fee as other clubs were interested. (No Murray dig intended)

Our squad doesn't need a huge amount of tweaking in all honesty, last year we under-performed big time mainly due to coming out of admin, George Burley and some unlucky injuries to key players. There's still a lot of players here from the 09/10 season, (Speroni, Clyne, Mccarthy, Ambrose, Scannell all played a big role that year) before we went into admin that season we were near the play-offs. I also think that Freedman is being cautious and taking his time to get the right player in so he isn't going out all guns blazing, he knows what happened to the club in the past when we've panic buyed and bought some right dross in like Akinbyi and Kuqi.

 

[Chrystal Palace]

I am not having a go at you but we have had knobs on here saying we spent our entire budget on CMS, how do they know what our budget is. Us Brighton fans don't know how much Poyet can spend.
How does any fan know what the managers budget for signings are and I do feel at times that chairman use this to their advantage.
Our last chairman always stated we had a competitive budget to the other teams in our league, but we ran on freebies and loan deals.
Now your Steve Parish stated when sacking Burley that he (Burley) refused to spend any money on players. Now I find this very hard to believe due to a manager being judged on results why would he not bring in players if the budget were there.
Now Parish is saying Freedman has the same as Norwich and Swansea did last season. How does Parish know what they budgeted. We do know that Norwich was spending as if it was going out of fashion and offered us a million for Bennett.
So if Freedman has that sort of money available why is he not splashing the cash so as not to risk the same criticism as Burley from Parish?
I just feel that club chairman can and do hang managers out to dry to save their own faces at times.

I think those who say you have spent your whole budget on CMS say that simply because it was such a big fee (for a player at Championship/League One) level, and that compared to most other Championship/League One teams that would take up most of the budget if not all of it. Us included.

At our level, clubs have very little coverage in the media compared to the likes of Man Ure and Chelski, and so we don't, really, have any idea how much our managers can spend. Though we can make a guess based on the kinds of deals our managers have made previously, and so I'd say our budget (which is sort of an unfair word to use, as I don't feel the board say to Dougie every window "you have x to spend this window", but I think it is he can buy any reasonable and justifiable signing, so doesn't have a particular budget within reason) is around £3m. That is just a complete guess, could be a lot more (doubt it though) but that, IMO, is around as much as we will spend.

It wasn't actually Parish that said it, but Stephen Browett, another member of the consortium, and what he actually said was that our wage limit/bill/structure (whatever you like to call it) was the same as theirs. Boards talk about this stuff at matches. They all know it.

We also have a "competitive" budget for this league. In the Championship, you don't need to spend millions to get a good squad. I would say our squad (and please nobody turn this into a 'Palace are shit and have a shit squad and we have CMS and Bennett is better than any Palace player blah blah blah) is a good squad for this level, certainly better than many other team's, yet it cost a total of £2,595,000 (link). Freedman has spent small sums wisely and on good players, simply because there is no need to spend massively.

To be honest, I really believe this about Burley. Parish and co. did give him money to spend, but his signings generally were poor. He probably didn't have as much backing as Dougie does, but I can't think of one of his signings that did well or was any good.

Freedman is not spending silly money because there is no need. He has the same vision as many football fans of signing young, hungry players for low fees. He could have bought James Vaughan for the same price as Norwich paid for him, but the fact is it was a ridiculous price that we would never pay for somebody of his quality. If Dougie sees a player he wants to buy for £2m and feels that is value for money, he will do it. Simple as that.

I agree, club chairman do try that. But I think that, as much as Palace fans owe a lot to CPFC2010, if they try and pull any wool over our eyes and put Dougie in a bad light, then they will be the ones who are hated. Dougie is far more of a legend than they are, and while I am a huge fan of them and am very thankful towards them, if they ever tried to save their skin instead of Dougie, I can guarantee it would not work, as Freedman is far more adored.