[News] How on earth in anyone's world is this worth only 16 months ?

[drew]

Who believes in rehabilitation? Successive governments, yes, but not the majority of the population. Rehabilitation doesn't work - we are one of the 10 countries with the highest rehabilitation rates in the world. I agree that harsh sentences don't seem to act as a deterrent either. So I say forget rehabilitation, just lock em up to keep me and mine safe. And don't give 'em any creature comforts. Make them suffer like the ones they cause suffering to.

Not sure that makes sense. Assume you mean we have one of the highest re-offending rates!

As for locking them up, how long for? And if you mean a very long time, how many extra prisons do you think we need to build and are you happy to fund them as a tax payer? There is a balance to find.

The guy is scum but difficult to judge properly without knowing any back story, eg first offence etc. I assume without the guilty plea he would have 32 months.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

A largely 'non violent' crime!
It was her own fault she didn't let go of the handbag! I've read some bollox on this forum over the years but this is a new low.

If you're referring to my post, that is neither what I said or I intended to say.

 

[RossyG]

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I don’t really want shitheads in prison dealing out punishments on behalf of me or any certain type of the populace. Unless of course you think they deserve that right........ to dish out their own justice. Like they of all people have earnt that privilege RossyG

Put it this way... I don’t like people who get into drunken fights and end up imprisoned for GBH.

But on the other hand, I don’t like young thugs who attack old people. I think they deserve a punch.

If the former is the one who punches the latter... well, beggars can’t be choosers.

It’s not like the GBH yob will be given any privileges as a result. He might even lose some. If so, win win.

Your mileage may vary, of course, and I can understand why you’d have misgivings about this.

 

[DJ NOBO]

I see more empathy on this thread for the offender than the victim.
Bizarre.

 

[Questions]

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Put it this way... I don’t like people who get into drunken fights and end up imprisoned for GBH.

But on the other hand, I don’t like young thugs who attack old people. I think they deserve a punch.

If the former is the one who punches the latter... well, beggars can’t be choosers.

It’s not like the GBH yob will be given any privileges as a result. He might even lose some. If so, win win.

Your mileage may vary, of course, and I can understand why you’d have misgivings about this.

I take your points on board. Maybe we can have them fighting off in a prizefighter type competition and let ‘sport’ be the winner.

 

[BN9 BHA]

If you're referring to my post, that is neither what I said or I intended to say.

I'm guessing he means post #6
You have replied to that one I see, it mentions what [MENTION=25123]SIMMO SAYS[/MENTION] has said

 

[Hastings gull]

Few points.

Even IF he does 7 months on good behaviour, 7 months is still a hell of a long time in prison. We believe in rehabilitation in this country, something to be proud of, and evidence shows that longer sentences often results in an increased likelihood in reoffending.Secondly, I agree some of our laws need modernising, but although despicable this was largely a non-violent crime. I'm not sure what kind of sentencing people expect. 16 months when confessing guilty is a lot more than what many get for similar or sometimes worse cases of robbery.

Finally, your "thousands in prison for minor drug crimes" is nonsense. Even possession of Class A's very rarely results in jail sentences - only notorious repeat offenders and dealers are in jail for drug crimes.

People really need to be careful what they wish for when it comes to desiring harsher laws. Although it can be satisfying seeing crimes being punished harshly, it is not for the greater good.

Might that have something to do with the fact that longer sentences are given for more serious crimes and the type of people involved in this, may just not be too bothered about re-offending.

 

[grubbyhands]

Would it be inappropriate to suggest a public flogging instead of any prison sentence?

I'd be quietly confident that the probability of a repeat offence would be lower?

But maybe a bit too old fashioned for some?

It most certainly would not! 100 lashes with a barbed wire flail and then immersion in a barrel of near-boiling brine. That'd do it!

 

[GT49er]

Would it be inappropriate to suggest a public flogging instead of any prison sentence?

I'd be quietly confident that the probability of a repeat offence would be lower?

There is only once sentence that 100% guarantees no re-offending - and I don't think you'll find much support for its re-introduction on here!

(And not much anywhere else either).

 

[Wrong-Direction]

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Put it this way... I don’t like people who get into drunken fights and end up imprisoned for GBH.

But on the other hand, I don’t like young thugs who attack old people. I think they deserve a punch.

If the former is the one who punches the latter... well, beggars can’t be choosers.

It’s not like the GBH yob will be given any privileges as a result. He might even lose some. If so, win win.

Your mileage may vary, of course, and I can understand why you’d have misgivings about this.

I've been assaulted on 2 occasions, losing teeth on both occasions, going all the way to crown court in one case with 3 witnesses. They got away free.

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[Invicta]

I see more empathy on this thread for the offender than the victim.
Bizarre.

Agree. The world has gone mad. Bless her.

 

[DavidRyder]

I think the US has the right idea on sentencing, shame we can't follow their lead.