How much of the problem is down to Tony Bloom?

[Billy the Fish]

But for all we know Burke may have done fantastically well considering the restraints he is under.

Also people forget that a big part of Burke's job is to do with youth development and running the academy. That is also what most of his previous football experience is in.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

SACK the BORED.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Blimey. The word " ungrateful" doesn't come anywhere near close.

To all the people having a go at bloom, what do you think would happen if he said..." Right , **** you ungrateful *******s, I am out of here and off to live and play poker in Australia, Oh and can I have my £200 million I have put into this club back...NOW"

 

[El Presidente]

A man who has never previously passed an interview (we can see why!?) who failed to get out of his only monster losing run (1 in 14) having less than a year employed solo should never have made a long list never mind a short list for a £1m a year job at the 14th highest attended club in England.
It is an important, highly paid role, no other industry the World would appoint someone with less than 10 years experience into a senior managerial role, never mind a rank learner

How many years experience did Mourinho have when appointed by Porto and taking them to Champions League success? Or Guardiola at Barcelona? Or Mullery at the Albion?

 

[Justice]

He thinks supporters want to see the ball pointlessly played round the back for twenty minutes of the game.

 

[El Presidente]

But for all we know Burke may have done fantastically well considering the restraints he is under.

But that will never stop people who have no idea what someone does on a day to day basis wanting that person to be made unemployed.

 

[Justice]

But that will never stop people who have no idea what someone does on a day to day basis wanting that person to be made unemployed.

Football fans up and down the land are fickle creatures of course certain club employees are going to get the blame when things go wrong, is it not all part of the fun of being a football fan?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Football fans up and down the land are fickle creatures of course certain club employees are going to get the blame when things go wrong, is it not all part of the fun of being a football fan?

You call this fun!?

 

[B.W.]

FFP... We can't afford to sack them, pay up contracts and hire replacements..

Nonsense. It WILL COST A LOT MORE WHEN we are relegated under Sami.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

I thought Bloom's first big footballing decision sacking McGhee showed he didnt have much judgment about football, so have been wary of him ever since because of that. Fair play Poyet was a blinder but the old doubts have set in ever since he went down the road of getting rid of him and giving us these pointless wasted years

I think you'll find that DK was still chairman when McGhee was sacked. Russell Slade was his first sacking.

 

[B.W.]

Do you need a scapegoat for everything? None of us can judge Jones in this, and his wages are surely an irrelevance.

Burke is there because we need a DoF as stated. Whether he is right or wrong who really knows, but obviously this season he has had very limited budget to work with.

Hyypia is an easy one, and should go. Very budget signing that has backfired. Bloom wants more control and a yes man after the Poyet situation

Jones needs to go to clear the decks for an experienced manager's chosen assistant.

Burke needs to go for the utter shambles that was this summer's window - the budget he is working with has increased, not decreased.

Sami needs to go because he is inept.

 

[father_and_son]

1. He appoints young, up and coming managers. His last 2 appointment had no championship experience and yet did well. What is a "yes man"? If you mean someone who will work within the budget given and not throw his toys out of the pram then yes, he appoints yes men.
2. Because we do actually have some pretty good players.
3. Because he is loyal and willing to give people a fair go. Despite what he may think, he will never slag off an employee publicly.
4. If panic signing means signing Darren Bent then yes, we are panicking
5. As we have seen from the accounts, Poyet was backed as far as TB could. He got within a gnats whisker of the play-off final. At some point TB had to say no.
6. We were losing money hand over fist. Whilst we are still losing money, I am certain that had KB stayed we would be losing a lot more.
TB is also a progressive chairman and looked at the best set ups in world football - they all have Director of Football positions.

I am sure TB is well aware of our league position and current travails. If he wants to get rid of SH he will do so in his own time.

That's my take on it anyway.

100% with you right up until the last comment...

I remain convinced that TB will have put a performance clause in SH's contract. There will be a date and a league position. If we are below that position on that date then SH will be gone without having to be paid off. It's not so much that TB will do it in his own time... IMO, the date is fast approaching and TB will just wait until it costs nothing (or at least just a payment in lieu of a relatively short notice period) to invoke the clause and get rid. Until that date SH will have the latitude, support and public backing that he feels he needs to do his best to get the team above that position.

 

[London Irish]

I think you'll find that DK was still chairman when McGhee was sacked. Russell Slade was his first sacking.

I think you need to find out what was really happening behind the scenes at the club back then. Money always talks

 

[B.W.]

100% with you right up until the last comment...

I remain convinced that TB will have put a performance clause in SH's contract. There will be a date and a league position. If we are below that position on that date then SH will be gone without having to be paid off. It's not so much that TB will do it in his own time... IMO, the date is fast approaching and TB will just wait until it costs nothing (or at least just a payment in lieu of a relatively short notice period) to invoke the clause and get rid. Until that date SH will have the latitude, support and public backing that he feels he needs to do his best to get the team above that position.

I hope you're right, although the date should have been 1st Nov. I'm still hoping it's 1st Dec.

 

[spanish flair]

Don't personally agree with your views about having a director of football, but that is by-the-by.

If the point of having a DoF is continuity when the manager changes, why appoint a manager who appears to have a very different mind-set to both Poyet an OG, and who brings in a very different system, one that the players seem to have struggled with right from the off?

I think you make a great point, one I see that all the D.O.F supporters have chosen to ignore.

 

[KZNSeagull]

100% with you right up until the last comment...

I remain convinced that TB will have put a performance clause in SH's contract. There will be a date and a league position. If we are below that position on that date then SH will be gone without having to be paid off. It's not so much that TB will do it in his own time... IMO, the date is fast approaching and TB will just wait until it costs nothing (or at least just a payment in lieu of a relatively short notice period) to invoke the clause and get rid. Until that date SH will have the latitude, support and public backing that he feels he needs to do his best to get the team above that position.

That's interesting if he has. I doubt that this is standard practice in the football world though.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Don't personally agree with your views about having a director of football, but that is by-the-by.

If the point of having a DoF is continuity when the manager changes, why appoint a manager who appears to have a very different mind-set to both Poyet an OG, and who brings in a very different system, one that the players seem to have struggled with right from the off?

All SH said when he was appointed was that he liked the way we played and just wanted to improve the quickness in transition between defence and attack. That seems to have morphed somewhat!

 

[spanish flair]

All SH said when he was appointed was that he liked the way we played and just wanted to improve the quickness in transition between defence and attack. That seems to have morphed somewhat!

Thats an interesting statement, any chance you have a link where he stated this so I can read it in full?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Thats an interesting statement, any chance you have a link where he stated this so I can read it in full?

Oh so now you want something from me instead of trying to get me sacked?!

It was in his interviews he did when he got the job. I first heard it on the seagull player interview, but he repeats it at the end of this article:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27812911

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

No he wasn't, he had a wealth of experience and did a fantastic job. He was exactly the right person for Bloom to discuss things with, rather than relying on the advice from Poyet, Burke and Bloom.

This. DK, in his interview on Latest TV on Saturday morning, pinpointed exactly what the current squad's weaknesses are, and where improvement needed to be made.