[Albion] How much is BHA worth to TB?

[Nobby Cybergoat]

However my question is what does Tony ‘own’ in return? I assume 100% of the club, which means stadium, training ground and other assets?

I've never thought about it like this.

But i'm mentally totting up, if in some parallel universe he flogged everything for as much as he could get in an asset stripping sort of way ....

... and these figures are almost certainly miles off .....

Playing staff = £250m. (Maybe down from about £350m a year ago)
Guaranteed money for next season's league finish and TV money = £150m
Land value of Amex and training ground = £40m
Brand and online presence value = £50m (god knows if this is accurate and of course it diminishes if we flog all our players)
Value of spare replica shirts in club shop £49.95
Value of sell ons / add ons due = £20m

On the negative side, I understand the club has some commercial debt, but I have no idea how much

Call it about £500m. If anyone wants any accountancy work done, PM me.

 

[Lurchy]

How much can that article be trusted? It has seven U.S clubs in the top 30 most valuable football clubs. I'll happily admit that finance/economics is not my strong point but how can U.S teams be considered that valuable? They have no fanbase or global recognition, play in a crap league and bring in less money than every team in the premier league(and inevitably every other team in the list).

How can they be valued so highly?

It’s because of the fees that it costs to buy a league place in the MLS.

Charlotte FC paid a reported 350m dollars just to register the new club with the league.

 

[Exilegull]

More than anyone is willing to pay to buy a club with a growth limited stadium in Falmer globally still a small "brand" and a fat debt to the owner who by the way has no intention to sell. Dont think there is any nation state or business consortium or hedge fund even thinking about trying to buy us as we simply cost far more than were "worth"

 

[schmunk]

However my question is what does Tony ‘own’ in return? I assume 100% of the club, which means stadium, training ground and other assets?

He doesn't own 100%, as there are other shareholders, but it's pretty close.

As of August 2022 (the latest publication of shareholdings) he held 89,362,354 out of the 95,232,480 Ordinary shares in B&HA Holdings Ltd , i.e. almost 94%.

 

[Seagull58]

Who owns the stadium and the training ground? Is it the club or a separate company owned by TB?

 

[Triggaaar]

What a f***ing stupid reply.

Calm down dear, I'm sure they were just having a bit of fun.

 

[Driver8]

Who owns the stadium and the training ground? Is it the club or a separate company owned by TB?

BHA Holdings own BHA Ltd (the football club) and The Community Stadium Ltd which owns the Amex, Training Ground and Monks Farm development. So separate companies but owned by the same company.

 

[Barham's tash]

Not an accountant, but this is correct. A dividend would indeed be taxable.

Tax free as it's a repayment of a directors loan.

 

[nwgull]

Tax free as it's a repayment of a directors loan.

That is what I said.

Dividend - taxable
Repayment of director loan - not taxable

 

[The red pepper kid]

That is what I said.

Dividend - taxable
Repayment of director loan - not taxable

BHA Holdings own BHA Ltd (the football club) and The Community Stadium Ltd which owns the Amex, Training Ground and Monks Farm development. So separate companies but owned by the same company.

S what is the expected value of the Amex and Lancing seperately as a ongoing venture /

 

[Sergei's Celebration]

S what is the expected value of the Amex and Lancing seperately as a ongoing venture /

If we consider the sale value, separate from the club, then they have to be lower than one would assume.

If you took the club out of the equation then there must be limited value in a 31k seater stadium on the outskirts of a small city and a office and sports complex between a road and a railway near a small town. The greatest value must be in the land itself not the bricks and mortar.

 

[Milano]

If we consider the sale value, separate from the club, then they have to be lower than one would assume.

If you took the club out of the equation then there must be limited value in a 31k seater stadium on the outskirts of a small city and a office and sports complex between a road and a railway near a small town. The greatest value must be in the land itself not the bricks and mortar.

That is unlikely though right? It's a job lot. I'd imagine the £ value of the land Anfield or Old Trafford is built on could be measured in sacks of potatoes.

 

[lasvegan]

It’s because of the fees that it costs to buy a league place in the MLS.

Charlotte FC paid a reported 350m dollars just to register the new club with the league.

It was much cheaper for Bill Foley to buy Bournemouth than start an MLS franchise. I expect Wrexham will be in the PL in a couple more years…

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

He doesn't own 100%, as there are other shareholders, but it's pretty close.

As of August 2022 (the latest publication of shareholdings) he held 89,362,354 out of the 95,232,480 Ordinary shares in B&HA Holdings Ltd , i.e. almost 94%.

I ended up acquiring 1% by default after I bought two Fantas, a guest pie and a bag of starburst from the North Shelf concourse