downham seagull
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Run my own business. 60 hours on a good week
And you are proud of that?
No wonder the UK is going to the dogs.
Yes, Yes I am.
I worked my bollocks off in a shit job for not far off minimum wage for over 18 months with no recognition before this happened. Whenever they needed somebody to come in at 6am on a Saturday I would volunteer, even though I didn't get home from work on a Friday until 11:30pm. I was constantly had the highest KPI in my department to the point I was pulling the entire department to it's daily target and was being paid the least because of my age. Even when the head of the department wasn't in and I was asked to run the department I was paid the least, in fact I didn't get paid a penny extra for it.
I then get forced out of that department by a new boss who had been moved in to our department after openly calling every English person working there lazy etc and wasn't reprimanded for it. When I moved department, me and another new arrival to that area actually sorted out a lot of what was going wrong in that department, improving the productivity by about 20%. Still, hardly any recognition. When the Christmas rush started to come around I worked quite a lot of overtime 20-25 hours a week, and was normally underpaid for it, or not paid at all so every week I had to go up and argue the toss constantly.
Then 2 weeks before Christmas I get told I had until January 31st of January to use all my holiday up or I would lose it, and not be paid for it. This despite the fact that office staff were paid for any unused holiday. This left me 3 weeks to use up 10 days of holiday. They told me this at the point for the exact reason of screwing me out of the overtime because the company would rather pay 3 people to do 10 hours each than pay me for 30 as you only got paid OT rates after you'd done 5 hours of OT.
So to spite them for 18 months of absolute bullshit I booked off 5 half-days for the following week, and turned up for 5 hours of overtime every day (the maximum allowed). Turn up at 9:30, work until 14:30 as overtime. Then work until 18:30 before going home on holiday. Go to bed at a reasonable time, wake up repeat.
So worked 9 hours Monday, paid for 13.
Worked 9 hours Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday/Friday - paid for 15.5 hours.
Came in and worked 8 hours on the Saturday too.
They then changed the rules so that you can't do overtime on days when you had holiday. If you want to know why the UK is going to the dogs then look at the company I work for who'd bend every rule in the books to pinch pennies, rather than me who ended up working there for 27 months until I was at my wits end due to all the shit they put me through. The last straw was when I was basically forced out of the company after not signing a new contract on a lower wage, for the sole purpose of saving the company 40p an hour.
0 hours for me
Did you ever think of taking legal advice on this?
Seems that they were breaking all sorts of employment law.
But still think my reply to your initial post was valid (without the detail)
I've got out of there and can't even be arsed to go back there to argue with them.
They'll get what's coming there way one day. This is a company who employ people direct from Bulgaria if they can stump up the cash for a room in a shared house in Worthing and the travel. A company who have their own in house agency so they can get away with paying people less for their first 3 months of employment. Eventually they'll slip up or someone will die there due to their piss poor H&S regulations.
The actual unemployment rate is about 4% and clearly some, possibly many, of those have little or no intention of working. When you posted that, you were going on the statements of about 20 folk - they are clearly working hard, assuming they were not exaggerating, but you cannot base statements such as we are all "working our nuts off" on that. A "better system" in your mind would involve people working less, and thus earning less for themselves and their families - first; why should they not work longer hours, if they want to, and secondly, should those people who might be more diligent, work/earn less simply to help those who may be less hard working. Of course this "either or" does not apply to everyone, but could do so.
You have put a lot of words in my mouth and thoughts in my head there. You entire post is based on assumptions of the basis of my post and where it came from. Thanks for your wild assumptions but they are incorrect.
Then I can only suggest that it would have been a much better idea to actually state what that basis was, instead of vaguely talking about a better system. So what is your better system?
Thanks for your suggestion, I will bear it in mind.
I could explain my post to you again but I don't think it would help much.
Again?- you haven't explained at all what your "better solution" entails. You are as muddled as ever followed by the customary retort that others then don't understand. You suggested, reasonably enough, that there might be a better solution. I countered by questioning what I assumed your solution might be, which you said was wrong. Have we heard what your solution actually is? No, so quite how you can talk about explaining again, is beyond me.
My words were 'surely we can come up with a better system than this' (or words to that effect). Go back and read it, I did not suggest that I have a superior system at any point. You are one again putting words in my mouth and deliberately misreading my posts. Either that or you are very dim, either way it is the same old same old.
Do you really want to go through all this crap again?
Sorry HG, you'll have to find someone else, I really can't be doing with your crap anymore.
Hope you find someone.
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You must be a secondary teacher? All of the primary teachers I know are doing 60 hrs/week term time.About 40 at work and another 5 planning and marking. Get paid for 35.
With so many unemployed why is it that those of us in work are working our nuts off. Surely we can work out a better system were everyone works less.
You must be a secondary teacher? All of the primary teachers I know are doing 60 hrs/week term time.