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How LARGE will Cameron's failure be ?
- Thread starter Dandyman
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Hmm. Seems to me that you are quite blinded by your ideology.
I want every child to get an excellent education.
Politicians of all stripes have not been able to provide that in the state system, across the board.
GIVEN that at present, I cannot get that education for my children in the state system, why would you remove my choice to pay more of my taxed income to provide for my children?
Im not sure why you see this as disingenuous claptrap.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Although this is well off track now, the Politics Home website is saying if a vote was taken today, the Tories would win 11 short of a majority.
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/7620/election_projection_tories_11_short_of_a_majority.html
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/7620/election_projection_tories_11_short_of_a_majority.html
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
- 11,033
I'm going to spare you and the rest of the board another five pages of explanation as to what I would do and why. Revisit if you must. And when do the very pejorative phrases 'dogma' and 'blinded by ideology' become simply believing in one issue strongly and knowing exactly what you think about it...I could have accused you of being blinded by self-interest, but I don't think that would be helpful. It's natural to want the best for your kids.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
... which is probably enough to ensure that they could govern without needing the formal support of any other political group in parliament.
Northern Ireland's MPs wouldn't rock the boat (apart from the SDLP) and that would ensure that a Tory programme could be achieved.
But the gap between the leading party and the rest ALWAYS closes during an election campaign. If it's 11 seats short of an overall majority today, expect it to be more by 6 May.
It didn't in 1983. Tories had a big lead over Labour at the start of the campaign and although the Tories' lead fell, Labour's share fell even more. L/SDP alliance increased dramatically.
The Queen invites a party to try to form a government - there's nothing in any constitution to say which one, although when this last happened in 1974, Heath did try to stay on to form a government.
Dandyman
In London village.
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Good points. I guess it decides on who feels that they can form a working government. If Broon felt able to claim the support of the Liberals (in exchange for electoral reform for example) then he might be able to claim first dibs. if the parties stand alone then I'd expect the Tories to form the government on a minority basis but the country to be back at the polls within 12 months.
I don't get the idea at the heart of your argument.
Why is a parent who rather than taking it on themselves to help with their child's education decides to just pay for a better school to educate their child for them will suddenly become so active they'd campaign their state school to improve standards?
Can you explain how exactly an increased percentage of parents who would otherwise send their kids to private school helps a state school?
Why make it means tested? Why not just make it applied for? Granted there would still be some people who don't need the support still claiming it but it would still be fewer people taking than hand out than everyone taking it. All you need is confirmation the child actually exists, surely that's not going to be any more of a burden on the system than the current set up is?
I used to work with an old bloke, fought in the war etc, etc, who stated that he thought every male in this country should have a reversable sterilisation at 16, which could be reversed once he could prove he was responsible and had the means to bring up a child/children.
I thought he was so wide of the mark it was bordering on insanity, but looking at some of the chavs around now, was he the sane one rather than me?
I thought he was so wide of the mark it was bordering on insanity, but looking at some of the chavs around now, was he the sane one rather than me?
wigman
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The Cardinal
Bishop of Withdean
CMD still failing to smarm enough of the British electorate according to the latest polls. Tories are defo not going to get a working majority.
FFS, I'll say it again! How does a link to a story about a chav who is getting too much in benefits prove that there are more people like him around than genuine single mothers who struggle to cope with day to finances and work?
The Cardinal
Bishop of Withdean
I think I've found another Chav parasite right here:
Tory Zac Goldsmith admits he is a non-dom - Times Online
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hahahah , cough , splutter, chav, hahaha
** wipes tears of mirth from his eyes**
FFS it is better than the first link though FFS
It won't be as large as the 'schoolboy in a sweet shop with his mummy's purse' who has been running the country's economy for the last 13 years, letting anyone into the country in the hope they will vote labour, stealing pensions to fund his unrealistic idealism and plunging the country into an irretrievable debt, Britain is the laughing stock of the world thanks to Blair and Brown, Cameron could not possibly do worse. Any leader will be seen as a failure taking on the problems they have been left with, it will take 10 years at least to set things right - be careful who you vote for or it could get a lot worse.