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How do you think Boris has handled it so far ?

How do you think Boris has handled Covid 19 so far ?

  • Superb

    Votes: 27 10.8%
  • Very Good

    Votes: 63 25.1%
  • Good

    Votes: 56 22.3%
  • Average

    Votes: 22 8.8%
  • Poor

    Votes: 44 17.5%
  • Very Poor

    Votes: 39 15.5%

  • Total voters
    251
  • Poll closed .


blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
Looks like Cummings is a one trick pony - who would have thought it? Here's a scoop for you Dom - there are some things you can't just ascribe a pithy catchphrase to in order to get your way. Tens of thousands of people dying is one of them. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the policies, the parroting of the new "slogan" is nauseating.

His reputation as some sort of communications genius is clearly unwarranted. Coronavirus has very immediate, very obvious effects which he can't b******t out of. He's out of his depth. They all are.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,568
The Fatherland
"I didn't know if I was supposed to go to work this morning" is a common one. How about you discuss it with your employer this morning FFS :facepalm:

You make the assumption the employer was able to understand yesterday’s car crash.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,725
Chandlers Ford
Broadly agree, fact is political opponents and the media have been chipping away over recent weeks with claims of how Boris was treating adults like children. Arguing about the message is form over substance, the adults amongst will continue to act responsibly and be alert to potential dangers such as being to close to those deciding to gather together.

As I think Douglas Badger once said, Rules are for the blind obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men..........I know which of those 2 groups are whining the loudest this morning.

Well, I’m not sure who the Badger chap is, but the big issue here is that there ARE no clear rules.
 


blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
Broadly agree, fact is political opponents and the media have been chipping away over recent weeks with claims of how Boris was treating adults like children. Arguing about the message is form over substance, the adults amongst will continue to act responsibly and be alert to potential dangers such as being to close to those deciding to gather together.

As I think Douglas Badger once said, Rules are for the blind obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men..........I know which of those 2 groups are whining the loudest this morning.

At some point, to get out of this crisis, we're going to have to start engaging our brains.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,725
Chandlers Ford
There's people all over the news this morning needing every single scenario spelled out for them.

"I didn't know if I was supposed to go to work this morning" is a common one. How about you discuss it with your employer this morning FFS :facepalm:

This attitude is pretty unfair. People have literally just seen the Prime Minister tell them directly - “if you cannot work from home, you should GO TO WORK FROM TOMORROW”

They have ‘had it spelled out to them’ already, from the highest authority.
 




sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
13,249
Hove
This attitude is pretty unfair. People have literally just seen the Prime Minister tell them directly - “if you cannot work from home, you should GO TO WORK FROM TOMORROW”

They have ‘had it spelled out to them’ already, from the highest authority.
Well he said they should be "Acively encouraged" to go to work but no mention of who should be doing that encouraging.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,247
Looks like Cummings is a one trick pony - who would have thought it? Here's a scoop for you Dom - there are some things you can't just ascribe a pithy catchphrase to in order to get your way. Tens of thousands of people dying is one of them. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the policies, the parroting of the new "slogan" is nauseating.

You get the distinct feeling that those hmgov minions ordered to parrot the new slogan have zero belief in it. Certainly Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland want nothing to do with it
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,982
This attitude is pretty unfair. People have literally just seen the Prime Minister tell them directly - “if you cannot work from home, you should GO TO WORK FROM TOMORROW”

They have ‘had it spelled out to them’ already, from the highest authority.

"So work from home if you can, but you should go to work if you can’t work from home.

And to ensure you are safe at work we have been working to establish new guidance for employers to make workplaces COVID-secure."

i suppose it is unclear for anyone who heard the first line and not the next. i wonder how many heard either and received secondhand. what should have been made clearer is for people to talk to employers about returning to work. own goal really, should have thought more about how it would be interpreted, and that more detail would follow.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,568
The Fatherland
And this is the same inept government which reckons it’s going to be signing wonderful new trade-deals all around the world in a few months. Gotta laugh haven’t you?
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
26,094
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And this is the same inept government which reckons it’s going to be signing wonderful new trade-deals all around the world in a few months. Gotta laugh haven’t you?

As I said in here last week. After this utter **** up, nobody with a functioning brain can possibly imagine this lot are going to make anything other than an utter balls up of life after brexit.
 




Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
This attitude is pretty unfair. People have literally just seen the Prime Minister tell them directly - “if you cannot work from home, you should GO TO WORK FROM TOMORROW”

They have ‘had it spelled out to them’ already, from the highest authority.

That's not what he said, or meant. Do you honestly interpret that as "turn up at work without discussing it with my employer"? It's as if some people can only process a single piece of information at a time and forget everything else.


[MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] mentioned it earlier in the thread - you're being incredibly obtuse.
 


Durlston

"You plonker, Rodney!"
Jul 15, 2009
10,017
Haywards Heath
I was a Boris believer, thinking that he was handling it well but last night has made things confusing and I don't know where we stand now.
 


Wozza

Custom title
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Jul 6, 2003
24,345
Minteh Wonderland
That's not what he said, or meant. Do you honestly interpret that as "turn up at work without discussing it with my employer"? It's as if some people can only process a single piece of information at a time and forget everything else.


[MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] mentioned it earlier in the thread - you're being incredibly obtuse.

Have you SEEN the general public?!

https://twitter.com/ProducerScott/status/1259586649744453632?s=20

[tweet]1259586649744453632[/tweet]
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,255
"So work from home if you can, but you should go to work if you can’t work from home.

And to ensure you are safe at work we have been working to establish new guidance for employers to make workplaces COVID-secure."

i suppose it is unclear for anyone who heard the first line and not the next. i wonder how many heard either and received secondhand. what should have been made clearer is for people to talk to employers about returning to work. own goal really, should have thought more about how it would be interpreted, and that more detail would follow.

I can't work from home due to the manufacturing job I do. Trouble is, my job is sales dependant and my boss won't want me coming back to work when I have little to do and pay me 100% of my salary all the time he can have me off his payroll on furlough. As for distancing, that's a joke, the RSCPA wouldn't let them keep chickens in the size of area we ( three of us) have to work in.... add to that the staff "room" is about 9'x8' so we'd have to stand staff up against walls for teabreaks and lunches.
 


sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
13,249
Hove
"So work from home if you can, but you should go to work if you can’t work from home.

And to ensure you are safe at work we have been working to establish new guidance for employers to make workplaces COVID-secure."

i suppose it is unclear for anyone who heard the first line and not the next. i wonder how many heard either and received secondhand. what should have been made clearer is for people to talk to employers about returning to work. own goal really, should have thought more about how it would be interpreted, and that more detail would follow.
He also said :

"We now need to stress that anyone who can’t work from home, for instance those in construction or manufacturing, should be actively encouraged to go to work."

"Actively encouraged" not ( for instance ) instructed.
 


Wozza

Custom title
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Jul 6, 2003
24,345
Minteh Wonderland
Meanwhile this advert was put live on Facebook yesterday...

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The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
26,094
West is BEST
So, the big new news is that if you can’t work from home, go to work. Just social distance. Which is exactly what they said seven weeks ago. How is it in any way new?

Construction sites can now open? Have any of them been out of their mansions in the last seven weeks? Building sites didn’t shut down .

Sky were digging up the road outside my house for a fortnight, ended their work two weeks ago.

A person I know who works in an office has been going in every day for the while lockdown as she “didn’t want to get behind on work”.


Why am I surprised the Tory’s are out of touch? They are always out of touch.
 
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Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
Have you SEEN the general public?!

https://twitter.com/ProducerScott/status/1259586649744453632?s=20

[tweet]1259586649744453632[/tweet]

:lolol:

Fair point. I think only the biggest Tory fanboi would try and argue this was anything other than a major f**k up.

They've done it completely arse about face. The detail should've been released first to those who need it e.g employers who can then cascade it down. Then they could release the silly slogans.

The people in the video are beyond help, but I still think there's seemingly intelligent people who aren't engaging their own brain.
 


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