[Football] How Do We Get Rid Of VAR?

[bn1&bn3 Albion]

This pretty much guarantees 4 intrusive reviews a game (for time-wasting or a breather if nothing else) which is probably worse than most matches currently.

Ok, 1 a game.

I don't want it at all but I can't see VAR being completely dropped.

 

[Washie]

Our officials just are not good enough.

 

[Eeyore]

Our officials just are not good enough.

The VAR decision today was correct.

The question lays with the ref.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

The VAR decision today was correct.

The question lays with the ref.

Sky just showed it again and proved var got it wrong.

 

[Washie]

The VAR decision today was correct.

The question lays with the ref.

That's what i've been argueing this entire time. The officials just are not good enough.

 

[GloryDays]

Get relegated.

So we’ll be ok next season.

 

[Whitechapel]

“It’s not VAR’s fault, it’s the refs” is one step away from the “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” logic.

 

[Eeyore]

Sky just showed it again and proved var got it wrong.

I'm happy with the VAR decision. Not the ref.

 

[Mr Bridger]

How do we get rid of Bar’s & posts

 

[Washie]

“It’s not VAR’s fault, it’s the refs” is one step away from the “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” logic.

But the referees were bad before VAR, VAR is being used by the same morons who are incompetent enough to need VAR.

 

[Bozza]

This is another bugbear of mine - linos keeping the flag down on offsides, letting a phase of play continue until the forward gets to the ball. Its batshit mental, and someone is going to get unnecessarily crocked as a direct result of it. It also just adds yet another level of confusion and uncertainty to the game.

I gather it was introduced to take marginal calls away from linos on offsides and "just let VAR sort it out", but it underlines your point - whats the point of even having them any more ?

That player is Patricio tonight.

Salah was offside, flag stays down, Salah “scores”, Patricio takes a big hit from Coady as the offside flag went up, belatedly.

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[PILTDOWN MAN]

That player is Patricio tonight.

Salah was offside, flag stays down, Salah “scores”, Patricio takes a big hit from Coady as the offside flag went up, belatedly.

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No time there from the offside to the incident, would have happened anyway

 

[blue-shifted]

Get well soon Rui Patricio

Get a needless collision and needless head injury. Hope there is no long term damage done.

In terms of getting rid of VAR, I'm aware that the PL are currently surveying clubs. Now would probably be the time to make your feelings clear to the club one way or the other

 

[Bozza]

No time there from the offside to the incident, would have happened anyway

You can't even see the incident in that video. I did initially share the Sky Sports one but they took it offline.

I think there's a reasonable chance that if the whistle bad blown any of Patricio, Salah and Coady may have pulled out their full-blooded commitment, averting the incident that followed.

 

[Giraffe]

I don't buy this "Its not VAR - its the way its being implemented" line. If you have it, you have to use it to its full accuracy, otherwise you just introduce more subjectivity into it. The "clear and obvious" thing is rubbish. If its clear and obvious, you don't need VAR at all.

The pro-VAR lobby just didn't think these things through. It can never do anything positive for the game - lets just admit it was a failure, get rid of it and give the decisions back to the refs.

Yep.

 

[big nuts]

By today’s standards the flag went up quite early.

The problem nowadays is that players, quite rightly play to the whistle. So whilst the flag did go up, players will keep playing as VAR might have overruled the linesman if they got the decision wrong.

Without VAR and a prompt flag and whistle this doesn’t happen.

 

[drew]

Get well soon Rui Patricio

Get a needless collision and needless head injury. Hope there is no long term damage done.

In terms of getting rid of VAR, I'm aware that the PL are currently surveying clubs. Now would probably be the time to make your feelings clear to the club one way or the other

I very much doubt there is any intention to discuss getting rid of VAR, more to see how it can be improved. Best way will be to get better refs watching the videos!!

 

[Swansman]

You can't even see the incident in that video. I did initially share the Sky Sports one but they took it offline.

I think there's a reasonable chance that if the whistle bad blown any of Patricio, Salah and Coady may have pulled out their full-blooded commitment, averting the incident that followed.

Imo its a perfect use of the new offside rule, he is centimeters offside and raising the flag could as well have stopped a perfectly fine goal. I think its silly when they do it when players are meters offside but in this case with the small margins I think its the right thing. Poor luck for Patricio but it has happened without this rule change and its going to happen every now and then if they revert back as well.

 

[nwgull]

By today’s standards the flag went up quite early.

The problem nowadays is that players, quite rightly play to the whistle. So whilst the flag did go up, players will keep playing as VAR might have overruled the linesman if they got the decision wrong.

Without VAR and a prompt flag and whistle this doesn’t happen.

I don’t see the problem with the late flag and confirmation or otherwise by VAR. A player being offside doesn’t suddenly, make the game much more dangerous and isn’t going to make an injury any more likely than any normal stage of play.

 

[Easy 10]

That player is Patricio tonight.

Salah was offside, flag stays down, Salah “scores”, Patricio takes a big hit from Coady as the offside flag went up, belatedly.

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I haven't seen that particular incident fully play out, but it IS an (unnecessary) accident waiting to happen. I've seen plenty of incidences where a player is CLEARLY offside but the flag stays down, and you see some desperate robust challenges as a result. Its a total nonsense, and is yet another example of VAR warping the game as we know it.