[Finance] How best to boycott USA goods.

[BiffyBoy100]

Don’t judge everyone by your own standards

So you still go out and clap? As a country we’re fickle.

Look at this post in 6 months time and let me know the breakdown of products / services you’re purchasing from the US.

 

[BiffyBoy100]

Righteous outrage is all well and good, but should the 1.5+ million people in the UK employed by US companies including everyone in Brighton working for Amex hand in their notice on Monday? Or does the boycott only apply to certain scenarios?

 

[BadFish]

Righteous outrage is all well and good, but should the 1.5+ million people in the UK employed by US companies including everyone in Brighton working for Amex hand in their notice on Monday? Or does the boycott only apply to certain scenarios?

Why do you care enough to come on here and tell us we are all wrong for doing this?

Its weird.

 

[BiffyBoy100]

Yum brands ie Pizza Hut and KFC also. Or least was many years ago I think.

Yum! Brands is still a US company.

It is headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky, and owns KFC, Pizza Hut, and Taco Bell. While many of its UK locations operate as franchises, meaning they are run by local business owners, they still pay fees back to the US parent company.

Same goes for Burger King.

Despite its name, you’d be better off down at Uncle Sam’s.

 

[BiffyBoy100]

Why do you care enough to come on here and tell us we are all wrong for doing this?

Its weird.

Is it weird because its a different opinion to you?

 

[BadFish]

Is it weird because its a different opinion to you?

Its not just stating your opinion though is it you and the other fella can't keep away

You have seen people doing something and felt the need to go and tell them they are wrong and then tell them again and again.

Its either virutal signalling, curtain twitching or just good old offended snowflakery. Defininately weird though.

Either way, you carry on. Keep bouncing the thread, maybe more people will get involved

 

[BiffyBoy100]

Its not just stating your opinion though is it you and the other fella can't keep away

You have seen people doing something and felt the need to go and tell them they are wrong and then tell them again and again.

Its either virutal signalling, curtain twitching or just good old offended snowflakery. Defininately weird though.

Either way, you carry on. Keep bouncing the thread, maybe more people will get involved

Ah yes, the classic ‘I’m not bothered, but let me write a whole paragraph about how bothered I am’ approach. If you’re allowed to post your opinion, surely I am too? Or is this a boycott on free speech as well

 

[BadFish]

Ah yes, the classic ‘I’m not bothered, but let me write a whole paragraph about how bothered I am’ approach. If you’re allowed to post your opinion, surely I am too? Or is this a boycott on free speech as well

You are just getting weirder now. I have not said anything that you suggest in this post.

You never answered my question:

Why do you care enough to come on here and tell us we are all wrong for doing this?

 

[BiffyBoy100]

You are just getting weirder now. I have not said anything that you suggest in this post.

You never answered my question:

Why do you care enough to come on here and tell us we are all wrong for doing this?

Having different views is a good thing, and I only commented in the first place because of the contradictions. As I pointed out in posts above, there will be people who think they’re boycotting the US while still spending money on American brands without realising it.

There’s so many US franchise’s in the UK and Yum Brand (KFC, Pizza Hut etc) is a good example. They might be run by UK franchise owners, but millions still flow back to the US through franchise fees, royalties, and ad money. And then there’s the 1.5+ million people in the UK employed by US companie so where does it stop? I think the biggest employer in Sussex is AMEX and they also sponsor our club.

It’s extremely ironic that we’re debating boycotting US products when one of our main sponsors is the epitome of American capitalism.

I just think in six months, most people will have forgotten about all this and be back planning their Orlando holidays. Anyway, I’ll leave it here so you can go back to hearing what you want. Good luck with it.

 

[BadFish]

Having different views is a good thing, and I only commented in the first place because of the contradictions. As I pointed out in posts above, there will be people who think they’re boycotting the US while still spending money on American brands without realising it.

There’s so many US franchise’s in the UK and Yum Brand (KFC, Pizza Hut etc) is a good example. They might be run by UK franchise owners, but millions still flow back to the US through franchise fees, royalties, and ad money. And then there’s the 1.5+ million people in the UK employed by US companie so where does it stop? I think the biggest employer in Sussex is AMEX and they also sponsor our club.

It’s extremely ironic that we’re debating boycotting US products when one of our main sponsors is the epitome of American capitalism.

I just think in six months, most people will have forgotten about all this and be back planning their Orlando holidays. Anyway, I’ll leave it here so you can go back to hearing what you want. Good luck with it.

Great input thanks

I guess my question isn't getting answered so happy to leave it there too.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Fair points well made.

But the topic is boycotting USA goods, not reducing them, and people are using their own definition of the word to suit their cause.

NOT Using, Buying, or being part of something for protest is my definition of boycott, as I have stated.

So you either stop using everything that is made/sold from across the water completely, otherwise you are not boycotting, you are virtue signalling in my opinion.

That's about as simple as I can make it.

Nonsense. If everyone in the UK bought one fewer US made item this year, there would be a drop in sales of 60m items. Of course that would be an impactful boycott.

It's only in your head that a boycott means all or nothing - and people have repeatedly explained why that is so hard in a globally connected market with the world's biggest economy.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Re boycott vs reduction, it is obviously utterly absurd to expect an immediate total boycott of US goods & services, but it is indisputable fact that every single time you quit a Trump-supporting platform, or buy one less item from Amazon etc, you are making a tiny dent in the businesses of the Tech Oligarchs. IT IS ALL WORTH IT

Here here. Every snowflake denies it is the snow storm. Individual micro action can definitely make a difference.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Righteous outrage is all well and good, but should the 1.5+ million people in the UK employed by US companies including everyone in Brighton working for Amex hand in their notice on Monday? Or does the boycott only apply to certain scenarios?

I think you're being too literal.

This is not simply a thread about boycotting and it is far from virtue signalling.

I believe it's a manifestation of people's deep sadness and outrage about what we witnessed in the White House a couple of days ago.

Of course the boycott (or partial boycott) will fizzle out for many, but that's not the point. People need to express their pain and this is one way to do that. You're not telling them a boycott is a bad idea, you are telling folks that their pain isn't legitimate. Don't be surprised when they lash out at you.

Perhaps be a little more sensitive and save your pedantry for other threads?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Re boycott vs reduction, it is obviously utterly absurd to expect an immediate total boycott of US goods & services, but it is indisputable fact that every single time you quit a Trump-supporting platform, or buy one less item from Amazon etc, you are making a tiny dent in the businesses of the Tech Oligarchs. IT IS ALL WORTH IT

This deserves more than a simple thumbs up. Of course it's not possible to make a total boycott and shirley only a complete idiot would think otherwise, but if everyone who thinks Trump and Vance are complete ****s gives a little more thought to what they purchase and, as a result, change their actions occasionally it will make an enormous difference.

But there will always be those, who for whatever reason, not only don't want this to happen but also try to discourage others from doing it, and spend their time on this thread to that end. I really can't imagine why

 

[SouthSaxon]

Righteous outrage is all well and good, but should the 1.5+ million people in the UK employed by US companies including everyone in Brighton working for Amex hand in their notice on Monday? Or does the boycott only apply to certain scenarios?

I work for a US company. The question of whether I want to continue that situation is certainly on my mind right now.

That doesn’t mean I’m quitting on Monday in righteous outrage or through a knee jerk reaction. Quite the opposite.

It’s partly recognition that if Trump aligns with Russia, as it looks like he wants to do, the UK must choose Europe.

This will cause big shifts in trade relationships, which will affect jobs and the cost of US goods and services. I would prefer to be ahead of that.

The second part is that it supports those Americans who do possess the needed combination of a functioning brain and spine to resist the rise of fascism in their country. Jake Broe says exactly that in his latest video, at 32:40:

…to anybody watching this still living in a free and democratic country, you have to avoid the United States. Don’t come here. Don’t come here to do business, don’t come here to do travel. Don’t vacation here and don’t buy any American products. And let everyone know you’re doing this because of Donald Trump, because of his language and his recklessness and his indifference.

 

[BBassic]

While digging around for non-US alternatives I came across the list linked to below. It covers a lot of everyday tech services (cloud services, email providers etc) and shows a lot of (mainly European) alternatives to US services. I can’t vouch for the services suggested on it, but it may be helpful to some.

GitHub - anitwek/alternatives-to-us: A curated list of non-U.S.-based alternatives to popular services, focusing on privacy and global accessibility.

A curated list of non-U.S.-based alternatives to popular services, focusing on privacy and global accessibility. - anitwek/alternatives-to-us

github.com

Really useful this, thanks

 

[El Presidente]

I have made the ultimate sacrifice by cancelling my subscription to Brazzers and deleting both the original and the 37 sequels to Debbie Does Dallas.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I have made the ultimate sacrifice by cancelling my subscription to Brazzers and deleting both the original and the 37 sequels to Debbie Does Dallas.

When I saw you had posted I knew there would be a reference to DDD, it's an age thing

 

[BBassic]

There’s always someone, I’ll explain…

It’s because they killed off <REDACTED> character at the end of The White Lotus season 2 and now there’s a <REDACTED> shaped hole in season 3. Completely unacceptable.

Well I'm definitely boycotting you for this unmarked spoiler of a TV show I started watching last week

 

[dadams2k11]

Not caring and live and let live by jumping into a discussion and labouring a pedantic and pointless point over and over while calling people names.

I hate to see your comments when you do care about something.

Might i suggest that you ask the mods to change the thread title if it offends you so much. Make sure you let them know how little you care about it though.

Thanks for your input too, its been . . . well its been input.

Where have I called anyone names? Why make stuff up to fit you argument?

It's not my fault you dont know what the definition of a boycott is and choose to adapt it to how you would like.

Oh look at me and what I'm doing and how great I am.