[Other Sport] Homophobia alive & well down under

[BadFish]

Surely you don't care what people on the internet think of you?

Your posts are beginning to make much more sense

 

[nickjhs]

It also says man should not lie with another man does it not? That it's an abomination.

It also says "“If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.” So would support for the killing of children for this "crime" be acceptable?

What if people are against anal sex and find that the disgusting aspect of it all?

Are they homophobes? Even if they apply it to men and women?

Opposing any relationship on the grounds of your personal distaste for their personal sexual proclivities seems rather silly to me, not forgetting many gay men do not like anal sex. So of course it doesn't make them a homophobe it just makes them a complete and utter tool.

 

[El Presidente]

If someone threw an olive at you I bet you wouldn't move as fast as if someone threw some shit at you ��

I think we have found some common ground at last.

 

[Baldseagull]

I absolutely do not believe that homosexuals / LGBT should ever be discriminated against. As I said earlier, live and let live. Never have I had a problem with it - everyone has a right to live their lives exactly as they want if it does not harm anyone else.

I don't feel compelled to publically don rainbow colours to advertise it though. If my employers arbitrarily announced one day that I was now obliged to openly show support for LGBT, then there would be a conversation to be had.

If you worked in MacDonalds, and they decided to change the Uniform for one week to include a few colours extra, in support of destigmatising homosexuality, you would want to have a conversation with your employer about it? As far as I am aware, these players didn't have to say or do anything other than their normal job, just do it in a slightly altered uniform and maybe have a picture taken. They didn't want to because they did not want to be associated with the message that it is ok to be gay, it isn't a fashion choice. I don't think that is a crime, but it doesn't send the message of live and let live.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

If you worked in MacDonalds, and they decided to change the Uniform for one week to include a few colours extra, in support of destigmatising homosexuality, you would want to have a conversation with your employer about it? As far as I am aware, these players didn't have to say or do anything other than their normal job, just do it in a slightly altered uniform and maybe have a picture taken. They didn't want to because they did not want to be associated with the message that it is ok to be gay, it isn't a fashion choice. I don't think that is a crime, but it doesn't send the message of live and let live.

The point is that a big corporate machine like McDonalds likely wouldn't do this as in general they talk diversity AND inclusion.

Of course I have an issue with response of the players but I have more of an issue with the club. By not being inclusive it has alienated its employees, made them feel uncomfortable and outed them.

By being inclusive they can also challenge and educate before committing to a cause.
This sort of thing is entirely avoidable

 

[Simster]

It also says man should not lie with another man does it not? That it's an abomination.

Here are some other lines in the bible. Do explain to us which of these lines those homophobes should also choose to treat as an undeniable truth, and which they should choose to ignore as the weird moral teachings from a different world of over 2000 years ago:

"Permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent."

"Those born of an illicit union shall not be admitted to the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of their descendants shall be admitted to the assembly of the Lord."

"If men get into a fight with one another, and the wife of one intervenes to rescue her husband from the grip of his opponent by reaching out and seizing his genitals, you shall cut off her hand; show no pity"

"If a man meets a virgin who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are caught in the act, the man who lay with her shall give fifty shekels of silver to the young woman’s father, and she shall become his wife. Because he violated her he shall not be permitted to divorce her as long as he lives"

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ.."

"As for anyone who presumes to disobey the priest appointed to minister there to the Lord your God, or the judge, that person shall die. So you shall purge the evil from Israel."

"A man or a woman who is a medium or a wizard shall be put to death; they shall be stoned to death, their blood is upon them."

"If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death."
"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Or any of the numerous lines that justified apartheid/segregation

 

[The red pepper kid]

Christ sake -- everyone wants free speech , and the choice to make their own opinions, just because they dont agree with your views- does it give you the right to name call and make judgements .
Im more worried about children STILL starving to death - than someones poxy t-shirt

 

[Audax]

I'd just never seen the word 'Manly' in the name of a team before

It's the name of a suburb in Sydney. And yes, the name is actually derived from the usage of the word in normal language:

From: https://dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/manly

"The first official dispatch in 1788 from Arthur Phillip, governor of the newly founded imperial outpost in New South Wales, noted the 'confidence and manly behaviour' of the Aboriginal people encountered on the northern side of the entrance to Sydney Harbour. Thus Manly derived its name."

 

[Napper]

Christ sake -- everyone wants free speech , and the choice to make their own opinions, just because they dont agree with your views- does it give you the right to name call and make judgements .
Im more worried about children STILL starving to death - than someones poxy t-shirt

everyones a right to free speech except when it doesnt fit with how they deem it should

 

[sydney]

There is a small rainbow on the shirt along with a large advertisment for a gambling company.

One is a permanent fixture on the shirt and is advertising an industry that sucks untold amounts of money from people's pockets and in some cases causes irreparable damage to families and communities.

The other is a symbol of love between some people.

And these fellas have the problem with the rainbow?

Something is wrong in the world.

they are rugby league players mate ....do you actually know any ...??

 

[sydney]

Well you can...............if you're a massive hypocrite.

but surely you can do what you want , you can take/give it in the coight , you can shag dogs , donkeys , sheep or goats ......you can be into auto -asphyxiation , mud club , squirters , latex grannies , midget porn , fisting , dogging , cottaging .....but if you are just a missionary , meat and two veg type of guy who goes to church every week why would you want to be forced to wear an emblem of something you don't agree with upon your person..?? for instance would a shirt with a swastika on it , a MAGA emblem , a GB NEWS insignia or REMAINER slogan if you don't agree with it ....why should people be forced to wear stuff they are not comfortable with in the 21st century for **** sake .....unreal!!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

but surely you can do what you want , you can take/give it in the coight , you can shag dogs , donkeys , sheep or goats ......you can be into auto -asphyxiation , mud club , squirters , latex grannies , midget porn , fisting , dogging , cottaging .....but if you are just a missionary , meat and two veg type of guy who goes to church every week why would you want to be forced to wear an emblem of something you don't agree with upon your person..?? for instance would a shirt with a swastika on it , a MAGA emblem , a GB NEWS insignia or REMAINER slogan if you don't agree with it ....why should people be forced to wear stuff they are not comfortable with in the 21st century for **** sake .....unreal!!

There is a difference between a swastika and a rainbow. You may well have been living with eejits for too long

 

[Simster]

but surely you can do what you want , you can take/give it in the coight , you can shag dogs , donkeys , sheep or goats ......you can be into auto -asphyxiation , mud club , squirters , latex grannies , midget porn , fisting , dogging , cottaging .....but if you are just a missionary , meat and two veg type of guy who goes to church every week why would you want to be forced to wear an emblem of something you don't agree with upon your person..?? for instance would a shirt with a swastika on it , a MAGA emblem , a GB NEWS insignia or REMAINER slogan if you don't agree with it ....why should people be forced to wear stuff they are not comfortable with in the 21st century for **** sake .....unreal!!

They shouldn't be forced but perhaps they should be educated as to why in the 21st century society there is a still very much a need to make 10% of its population feel supported for the heinous crime of not being heterosexual. It's not entirely like the civil rights marches of the 60s.

 

[sydney]

They shouldn't be forced but perhaps they should be educated as to why in the 21st century society there is a still very much a need to make 10% of its population feel supported for the heinous crime of not being heterosexual. It's not entirely like the civil rights marches of the 60s.

supported or promoted..?? i think it's seen by a lot of more backward thinking folk as promotion of a lifestyle they may not necessarily be all that comfortable with and as such it polarises opinions just as the taking the knee winds then racists up ....it's an immensely complex subject but homophobia is definitely no more alive and well in Australia that it is in the UK. You cannot be suggesting that we force unwilling people to promote a lifestyle they are not supportive of .....that is just weird.

 

[schmunk]

but surely you can do what you want , you can take/give it in the coight , you can shag dogs , donkeys , sheep or goats ......you can be into auto -asphyxiation , mud club , squirters , latex grannies , midget porn , fisting , dogging , cottaging .....but if you are just a missionary , meat and two veg type of guy who goes to church every week why would you want to be forced to wear an emblem of something you don't agree with upon your person..?? for instance would a shirt with a swastika on it , a MAGA emblem , a GB NEWS insignia or REMAINER slogan if you don't agree with it ....why should people be forced to wear stuff they are not comfortable with in the 21st century for **** sake .....unreal!!

You are Bob Katter AICM£5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ih1EuMLspY

 

[sydney]

There is a difference between a swastika and a rainbow. You may well have been living with eejits for too long

it's just an example H ffs , i've been in clubs in sydney where the entertainment was pretty much a 6 man orgy in a blow up paddling pool full of bubbles , nothing shocks me mate , apart from other peoples attitudes , went to huge gay dance parties that pretty much turned into full ons ,i've built dungeons for gays in Sydney , seen shit you wouldn't believe... it just doesn't phase me , which is why when the mainstream gets hold of it as a vehicle and attempts to rub it in my face i get a twitchy , i came to terms with gays in the 90's mate ....all good , i came to terms with jamaicans and africans in the 80's......

 

[sydney]

You are Bob Katter AICM£5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ih1EuMLspY

ohh ffs.....bore off mate.

 

[Simster]

supported or promoted..?? i think it's seen by a lot of more backward thinking folk as promotion of a lifestyle they may not necessarily be all that comfortable with and as such it polarises opinions just as the taking the knee winds then racists up ....it's an immensely complex subject but homophobia is definitely no more alive and well in Australia that it is in the UK. You cannot be suggesting that we force unwilling people to promote a lifestyle they are not supportive of .....that is just weird.

What are you talking about? How do you "promote" a sexuality?

You think wearing a rainbow shirt is saying "Abandon your sexuality and turn GAY" rather than "It's OK not to be heterosexual"?

THAT is weird.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

I've always wondered what promoting homosexuality would actually look like, I mean how exactly would you market the gay to people? You know instead of just acknowledging that it exists which is what the homophobes seem to think it is.

 

[sydney]

What are you talking about? How do you "promote" a sexuality?

You think wearing a rainbow shirt is saying "Abandon your sexuality and turn GAY" rather than "It's OK not to be heterosexual"?

THAT is weird.

it could just as easily say "it's great to be gay" couldn't it....it's great to go to cornwall , it's great to eat scones , it's great to ride a bike ....it's promotion...?? i honestly don't have a problem with it but i think people should have a choice , if they don't want to wear it why should they be vilified ..?