[Other Sport] Homophobia alive & well down under

[Napper]

who made the decision originally to wear it ? not down to the players to promote the issue especially if they don't believe in it.

there is better ways to promote than pushing messages this way IMO.

It may all be clever marketing anyway , got everyone discussing it

The outraged can get outraged though so maybe a win win all round

 

[nickbrighton]

On Thursday, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles will become the first team in the competition ever to don a kit which promotes LGBT inclusivity in the sport.

The MANLY?!

That is priceless.

and for those who will be asking next week - this is why we need Pride . The first thing you think about on a thread about LGBT is make a joke about Manly and being gay - the assumption being gays cant be manly

This isnt me being all "woke" or a snowflake, just a gay guy who is fed up of casual references putting LGBT people down, similar to the "thats so Gay" comments to denote something bad


You probably didnt even think about it did you? Oh Gay and Manly -thats a laugh.... didnt cross your mind that that "joke" would be the same as saying "oh look WHITEhaven FC has Black players -hahaha thats priceless!

Just goes to show that there is plenty of work left to do

Its casual homophobia

 

[LamieRobertson]

No popcorn so a packet of crisps will have to do

 

[studio150]

Religious grounds, but no doubt still willing to play on their Sabbath

 

[schmunk]

Given how many letters there are now in the alphabet it's hard to know which one they might not support.

It's not like all the G's and L's recognise all the T's or Qs.

We all recognise you're a W..

 

[Deadly Danson]

Must say it's a surprise to see the same old posters appearing like moths to a flame to try to justify blatant homophobia

 

[herecomesaregular]

and for those who will be asking next week - this is why we need Pride . The first thing you think about on a thread about LGBT is make a joke about Manly and being gay - the assumption being gays cant be manly

This isnt me being all "woke" or a snowflake, just a gay guy who is fed up of casual references putting LGBT people down, similar to the "thats so Gay" comments to denote something bad


You probably didnt even think about it did you? Oh Gay and Manly -thats a laugh.... didnt cross your mind that that "joke" would be the same as saying "oh look WHITEhaven FC has Black players -hahaha thats priceless!

Just goes to show that there is plenty of work left to do

Its casual homophobia

My first thought was I wonder if the sponsors chose Manly Sea Eagles deliberately?

 

[Easy 10]

The knee-jerk is always to condemn, but if these players are not overtly homophobic, hostile or abusive towards LGBT then I'm not sure why they should be obliged / press-ganged into wearing rainbow colours. Some of them are Polynesian descendants who may have had an entirely different upbringing in terms of beliefs and values regarding homosexuality. The West (quite rightly) preaches tolerance and acceptance of course, and I'm fully on board with that. But I'm not sure that forcibly dictating and imposing OUR values on this matter to everyone else in the world is the right way forward.

Like wearing a poppy, it shouldn't be an obligation. It should be a choice.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Homophobia or just refusing to take part in woke virtue signalling?

Or both?

 

[Hotchilidog]

The knee-jerk is always to condemn, but if these players are not overtly homophobic, hostile or abusive towards LGBT then I'm not sure why they should be obliged / press-ganged into wearing rainbow colours. Some of them are Polynesian descendants who may have had an entirely different upbringing in terms of beliefs and values regarding homosexuality. The West (quite rightly) preaches tolerance and acceptance of course, and I'm fully on board with that. But I'm not sure that forcibly dictating and imposing OUR values on this matter to everyone else in the world is the right way forward.

Like wearing a poppy, it shouldn't be an obligation. It should be a choice.

Where to even start with this? Refusing to wear the shirt for 'religious reasons' is just cover for bigotry. Nonsense.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Must have missed the bit where it said it wasn't just religion.

Actually it is very clear. Quote from BBC.

“But players weren't consulted and some object to the move on religious and cultural grounds.”

But you just ignored it ….


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[Deportivo Seagull]

The knee-jerk is always to condemn, but if these players are not overtly homophobic, hostile or abusive towards LGBT then I'm not sure why they should be obliged / press-ganged into wearing rainbow colours. Some of them are Polynesian descendants who may have had an entirely different upbringing in terms of beliefs and values regarding homosexuality. The West (quite rightly) preaches tolerance and acceptance of course, and I'm fully on board with that. But I'm not sure that forcibly dictating and imposing OUR values on this matter to everyone else in the world is the right way forward.

Like wearing a poppy, it shouldn't be an obligation. It should be a choice.

Not wearing a shirt because your ‘imaginary friend’ wouldn’t like it is bollocks.
I don’t see any of them refusing to play on the sabbath or complaining about betting shirt sponsors.


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[BBassic]

and for those who will be asking next week - this is why we need Pride . The first thing you think about on a thread about LGBT is make a joke about Manly and being gay - the assumption being gays cant be manly

This isnt me being all "woke" or a snowflake, just a gay guy who is fed up of casual references putting LGBT people down, similar to the "thats so Gay" comments to denote something bad


You probably didnt even think about it did you? Oh Gay and Manly -thats a laugh.... didnt cross your mind that that "joke" would be the same as saying "oh look WHITEhaven FC has Black players -hahaha thats priceless!

Just goes to show that there is plenty of work left to do

Its casual homophobia

Genuinely not my intention and apologies if it's come across as homophobic. If you knew me you'd know I'm categorically, demonstrably some might say, not homophobic. So, again, apologies if I'm come across poorly here.

I'd just never seen the word 'Manly' in the name of a team before

 

[A1X]

Homophobia or just refusing to take part in woke virtue signalling?

"Woke virtual signalling" such as *checks notes* thinking homosexuals deserve to be treated with respect

 

[Easy 10]

Where to even start with this? Refusing to wear the shirt for 'religious reasons' is just cover for bigotry. Nonsense.

If they have their own personal opinions and beliefs to themselves based on their own education and upbringing, WITHOUT it manifesting in hostility towards anyone else, then who are we to tell them "NO - we demand that you wear this shirt to support LGBT regardless of your own religeon and values".

I wouldn't support their viewpoint. But is it really down to their employers to insist they ditch what they believe in, in order to outwardly support and represent something they don't believe in ? Or should they just get on with it.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I can see this from both sides.

On the one hand I totally get the point, that people should be able to opt out of making a social message they don't agree with and accept it as a pragmatic point that there are obviously parts of the world less far ahead than others in terms of social inclusion than others and to me the way better way is to cajole and educate rather than confront.

On the other hand I haven't always taken the same view when it's an anti racism message and players have refused to take the knee

 

[Easy 10]

Not wearing a shirt because your ‘imaginary friend’ wouldn’t like it is bollocks.
I don’t see any of them refusing to play on the sabbath or complaining about betting shirt sponsors.


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I'm not in the slightest bit religeous. But arbitrarily dismissing out of hand the religeous beliefs of the billions of people who are (because like me, you're clearly not) could be described as being a bit....descriminatory ?

Anyways, this isn't a hill I'm going to choose to die on. I just think people are sometimes quick to dismiss other cultures and races who hold different beliefs to our own, and who choose not to automatically align themselves with our own "western" sets of values when we demand it of them.

Live and let live.

 

[Hotchilidog]

If they have their own personal opinions and beliefs to themselves based on their own education and upbringing, WITHOUT it manifesting in hostility towards anyone else, then who are we to tell them "NO - we demand that you wear this shirt to support LGBT regardless of your own religeon and values".

I wouldn't support their viewpoint. But is it really down to their employers to insist they ditch what they believe in, in order to outwardly support and represent something they don't believe in ? Or should they just get on with it.

When the cause is respecting your fellow humans for being who they are, they should get on with it. Bigotry is bigotry. This is not a political point, or a matter of opinion. People can and will think what they want, but by deliberately refusing to play because they have been asked to wear a rainbow shirt just exposes those players for the bigots they are.

For me there are not two sides to this. You are either a homophobe or you are not.

 

[sydney]

On Thursday, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles will become the first team in the competition ever to don a kit which promotes LGBT inclusivity in the sport.

The MANLY?!

its a suburb of sydney , you know the second largest queer city ion the world , you small minded tit , and devoutly christian islander players who don't want to be dictated to are free to chose wether to play wearing the rainbow or not at all if that is their choice , what's wrong with you lot , when i used to take people from sussex out to the taxi club , gilligan's and les girls back in the 90's they were genuinely horrified.....op needs to wind his neck in with that thread title ffs.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

If they have their own personal opinions and beliefs to themselves based on their own education and upbringing, WITHOUT it manifesting in hostility towards anyone else, then who are we to tell them "NO - we demand that you wear this shirt to support LGBT regardless of your own religeon and values".

I wouldn't support their viewpoint. But is it really down to their employers to insist they ditch what they believe in, in order to outwardly support and represent something they don't believe in ? Or should they just get on with it.

Not sure the club would 'demand' anything. They probably thought that it was a positive thing to do and didn't expect some players to throw their toys out of their pram because of their 'religious and cultural beliefs'

If it was supporting Putin's invasion of Ukraine, for example, I'd understand the resistance. But when the aim is a bit of equality? Nope, don't get it I'm afraid...