HMP Aylesbury - ITV

[Stat Brother]

Anyone watch?

Certainly nothing new, as summed up by one of the guards, with words to the effect of:-

'90% of prisoners just want to do their time and get out.
10% come here and disrupt everything, taking up all our time'.

The disrupter's last night, may well have had mental health issues, they certainly seemed very child-like, but they had all the buzz words to describe their 'condition'.
Last night must have just been a continuation of years of disruption and counselling.

 

[hitony]

Recorded it, yet to watch it.

 

[hola gus]

I watched it, and just can't believe how much staff pander to these scumbags. Causing riots to get a prison transfer?! Yeah good thinking!!! Jail just looks so soft to me.

 

[albion534]

They all have tv's! I mean, they don't have it thy bad, and to take prisoners hostage demanding to be moved closer to home? Then do it again! Northern idiots

 

[Stat Brother]

It doesn't answer the underlying social problems that gets these men into jail.
It would certainly magnify any mental health issues, but would this be the ultimate deterrent, to tw@tting around?

BBC News - Just how bad are American prisons?

"Extreme solitary confinement and reduced environmental stimulation" is how Thomas Silverstein, a convicted multiple murder, has described conditions at the Supermax prison.

In a 2007 lawsuit challenging the conditions of his imprisonment, Silverstein said he was subject to 24-hour surveillance, locked in an 8.5ft by 10ft cell for as many as 23 hours a day, and took meals and exercised alone.

The cells in "Z-Unit" - a special segregation unit - contained a bed with metal restraint rings, a sink, toilet and shower.

One had a mirror, cement walls and a small window he could only see out of when he stood on his desk. The other cell had no mirror - only a small window covered in mesh and painted over, he said.

Silverstein, 60, had been convicted of murdering another prisoner at a maximum security prison in Illinois. He said he exercised an hour a day by himself in 10ft by 10ft "dog-kennel-like" cement yard attached to his cell.

He said he was "entombed" by a sound-proof door that prevented him from talking to other inmates, and in any case he was barred from contacting other inmates.

The conditions, he said, caused depression, hallucination, disorientation and memory loss.

He said the damage went "beyond the boundaries of what most human beings can psychologically tolerate"

 

[beorhthelm]

it stuck me that filling a prison with 18-20-odd year olds with violent pasts is probably going to lead to some fairly difficult territorial and gang like problems.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

He said the damage went "beyond the boundaries of what most human beings can psychologically tolerate"[/I][/QUOTE]

I expect that's just what the families of his victims were going through. It wasn't that long ago you got 7 years for pinching bread. Jail certainly seems to have become softer during the 20th century.

 

[Stat Brother]

I remember watching a fly on the wall, about Sheffield Social Services' youth team (for want of a better word)

It featured a girl going through all the anti social behaviour tick boxes.
She'd been through every establishment Sheffield had and threw it back in their faces, half the time literally.
She must have cost Sheffield tens of thousands of pounds.

Anyway, her Social Worker called her in for yet another meeting, he slammed a tent on his table and said 'there you go'.

The look on her face was priceless.

I don't believe they carried it through, but the realisation that she'd pretty much burnt her bridges did wake her up.

 

[ees complicated no?]

Prisons (YOI) are far to easy.

 

[ali jenkins]

How do any of you know how 'easy' prison is? Unless you have been there you would have no idea!

Just because you've seen something on TV that the producer of the show decided to let you see it doesnt mean that's what it's like.

 

[ees complicated no?]

How do any of you know how 'easy' prison is? Unless you have been there you would have no idea!

Just because you've seen something on TV that the producer of the show decided to let you see it doesnt mean that's what it's like.

6 months in feltham, sounds stupid but when I left I prefered it in there than out here as you have a lot less to worry about.

 

[The Spanish]

Prisons (YOI) are far to easy.

reminds me of the alan partridge episode when he is shitting himself over a tax return and his eastern european girlfriend says "but you say prison is easy its like holiday camp"

 

[strings]

I went to a YOI recently, as my company tend to work with many Prisons. I got a guided tour from one of the Prison Staff. It really didn't seem easy or fun.

 

[Common as Mook]

Yeah, I'm sure the poor fucker who got held hostage, stripped, threatened with rape, had glass held at his throat, beaten with a snooker ball in a sock, really thinks it's easy.

Also - why do they have pool cues and balls in these places?? Recipe for disaster surely?

 

[Blackadder]

Yeah, I'm sure the poor fucker who got held hostage, stripped, threatened with rape, had glass held at his throat, beaten with a snooker ball in a sock, really thinks it's easy.

Also - why do they have pool cues and balls in these places?? Recipe for disaster surely?

I watched it last night. Have to say I would hate it in prison. Loss of freedom and avoiding the nutters must be a barrel of laughs. Having said that, the extra 28 days they were sentenced for what they did to the hostage was laughable.

I know the hostage was too frightened to press charges but the Prison officers were on the other side of the door (which had a window). They could see what was happening.

 

[ees complicated no?]

Yeah, I'm sure the poor fucker who got held hostage, stripped, threatened with rape, had glass held at his throat, beaten with a snooker ball in a sock, really thinks it's easy.

Also - why do they have pool cues and balls in these places?? Recipe for disaster surely?

For all you know that 'poor fucker' might of been a rapist, child beater or a number of other things.

 

[Common as Mook]

For all you know that 'poor fucker' might of been a rapist, child beater or a number of other things.

True.

However, I was just hilighting that prison didn't look like a bed of roses for him.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

For all you know that 'poor fucker' might of been a rapist, child beater or a number of other things.

Stupid argument

 

[strings]

For all you know that 'poor fucker' might of been a rapist, child beater or a number of other things.

I don't think that makes it any better. If you think the sentences passed down on rapist, child beaters, etc, are too soft than campaign for a change in the law. Don't advocate summary justice.

 

[ali jenkins]

Also - why do they have pool cues and balls in these places?? Recipe for disaster surely?

Have you every tried playing Pool without them? Its pretty hard!