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Hillsborough Memorial day today
- Thread starter warsaw
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Paxton Dazo
Up The Spurs.
- Mar 11, 2007
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I think one of the fans talking about it on that programme hit the nail on the head. People under the age of 18 can't imagine how bad that disaster really was, as they would never have had stood in an overcrowded terrace.
However my dad stood in that end in '81, and then there was complaints about that end.
However my dad stood in that end in '81, and then there was complaints about that end.
Insel affe
HellBilly
with many contributing factors some of which we will never fully know or understand.I am Amazed we argue on NSC on whos f***ing fault it is............... "its the polices fault or the ticketless fans fault" ............... Bolloxs ............ Its a Tragedy & Disaster................ people lost there lives................at a football match............Respect the dead, and argue somewhere else
Spider
New member
- Sep 15, 2007
- 3,614
Can someone tell me what the Liverpool fans were singing at Andy Burnham? I can't work it out.
"... ... for the 96"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7999279.stm
"... ... for the 96"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7999279.stm
Justice
I only know because they said it on the TV report I watched, I couldn't understand it from what was actually being sung.
First rule of NSC, EVERYTHING descends to binfest level eventually.
ewe2
Well-known member
I agree with the 96 families......no more terracing in grounds. The Taylor report reconmended all seater stadiums. ! I cant help but wonder how many fans behind each goal ......sit down the kop included .
NMH
Banned
But on what justification should there be no more terracing? It can't be safety, the 96 were killed due to asphyxiation caused by being pressed up against the fences, and the nature of the pens at Hillsborough.
Every time someone starts a serious debate about the reintroduction of well designed, secure safe terracing a Hillsborough victim's family member is wheeled out to stifle such debate, as politicians and administrators are scared of losing votes and causing offence.
It's as if a number of the clubs realise that they would not be able to justify the ridiculous prices charged to attend matches today if they were not providing the 'benefit' of a plastic seat for 90 minutes.
Just because something might have been valid in 1989 does not necessarily make it valid in 2009, and we end up with the sterile insipid atmosphere at matches with all seater stadia up and down the country, as the gentrification of the game continues.
The Large One
Who's Next?
Which is what I suspect the authorities wanted all along.
Scotty Mac
New member
- Jul 13, 2003
- 24,405
went to the memorial service at anfield 10 years ago for the 10th aniversary, and i didnt really have much idea just what a tragedy it was until i did. singing you'll never walk alone on the kop with 96 candles burning on the pitch below was one of the saddest moments of my life
rip in the 96
rip in the 96
Scotty Mac
New member
- Jul 13, 2003
- 24,405
i usually enjoy your attempts to wind people up on here and cause controversy thomas, but this time you are just making an utter utter **** of yourself
According to the Interim Hillsborough report 'however, the police witnesses who most impressed me did not consider the number of ticketless fans to be inordinately large. This accords with two other sources of evidence'
See Page 43 of the report, available from the South Yorkshire Police website
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,877
Well, in regard to my previous posts I would thought it was easy to work out..
.. sorry for the confusion. The clue is, it isn't you not by a very very long way.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,877
Quite, but when people post lies it's only right that people respond.
( and seeing that lying plays a major part in the story anyway... )
Catch 22. If they hadn't opened the gates, would we be talking about the deaths of fans at the turnstiles. They opened the gates not as a gesture of goodwill to ticketless fans but because of crushing outside. The wonderful science of hindsight tells us that was not the solution.
At last, someone agrees with me.
One minute people are spouting the Taylor report as gospel and the next, when the argument for all seater stadia doesn't suit, it is irrelevant. What's it to be?
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,877
A few things....
1) What led to the congestion at the Turnstile ?
2) What solution was offered at the time, but was ignored ?
3) Why was there a delay in opening the exit gate ?
Bwian
Kiss my (_!_)
- Jul 14, 2003
- 15,898
I think you'll find that Heysel was as much Juve's fans' fault as Liverpool's or have you forgotten about the missiles and lumps of concrete they were throwing at Liverpool fans before the wall collapsed? Perhaps Liverpool fans were aware of the violence of Roma fans they'd encountered the year before? Still, it's Scousers-they must be at fault.
Well, in regard to my previous posts I would thought it was easy to work out..
.. sorry for the confusion. The clue is, it isn't you not by a very very long way.
Cheers CG, I thought I was in accord with your views on the matter
sod1
New member
one of the lads at work was telling me today how his Dad and 14 year old sister were near the pitch at the game as Forest fans, they had four bodies laid out on the pitch in front of them, his sister has never been to a game since and probably wont in the future.
Truly shocking for all who were there
Truly shocking for all who were there