What examples of bravery has that fat turd shown in the past?
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I'd say it's pretty brave to go out in public and say the stuff he says, looking the way he does. Less so now he's surrounded by Secret Service though I guess.
**** you're wrong a lot
Not wanting to be drafted has zero relevance to bravery or cowardice. If you're going to pretend to be smart you'll have to agree with my statement as you know it's correct.
Surely depends on the real reason why you dodge the draft in the first place. Could be he's a coward and didn't want people shooting at him then it is relevant to his claims he would run in to a building unarmed when someone is in there with an automatic weapon! Of course you may defer draft if you have unusual lumps sticking out the back of your heels but then you could always produce evidence to support that couldn't you?
He didn't feel intimidated when shagging a porn star, that's pretty brave.
Tyrone Biggums
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Or he had no interest in being a soldier.
The problem here is I'm not defending Trump. I'm challenging the stupid assertion a draft dodger is a coward because they have zero interest in being a soldier.
It's a moronic point of view.
Tyrone Biggums
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What if he thought the war was a pointless one and not worth wasting his life on? What if he would rather make money than kill people. I reckon that's a pretty valid reason to dodge it.
Saying you don't want to go overseas and shoot people has zero relation to being willing to take someone out to defend your own people.
I'd have no interest in going OS to shoot people, more than willing to shoot someone threatening my families lives though.
I think the majority of the US population is saying "Wish you (Mr President) had run into that Florida school without a gun. "
Tyrone Biggums
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Given all the cry babies out there I'd say showing up anywhere there's a Democrat present.
Tyrone Biggums
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Not defending him.
Questioning the stupid position of thinking draft dodging = cowardice.
It's your view that is moronic. The draft is not about whether you want to be a soldier or not. It's not a career choice.
Tyrone Biggums
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I wouldn't give a **** who it was you plum.
I have family that were draft dodgers because they didn't want to fight in any war for some **** of a King in England.
Smart men, missed that British **** up called Gallipoli because of their decisions.
What has racism got to do with anything?
Tyrone Biggums
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No shit Sherlock! It's about forcing private citizens to go to a war they have no interest in and if they say no they become a criminal.
My view is spot on, your view that a Government should be able to force people into joining an army is the moronic one.
What kind of a lackey are you to think that is a good thing?
Tyrone Biggums
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The hypocrisy of these peace loving types now saying people who avoid the draft are some how bad is laughable.
But then Trump would probably have found a gun on a dead teacher and accidentally shot the sicko (not my words) shooter and got re-elected President.
Come on Ty he could afford to be bought out of the draft just like the children of thousands of other wealthy American families.
I can't hold that against him, with the means to do so, I'm sure most parents would do the same.
'W' spent the Vietnam years defending the airspace of Texas, from attack.
The t'internet seems to suggest Clinton was a little more cunning in his draft dodging.
Please don't put Trump's dodge down as some kind of moralistic higher purpose, it's nothing to do with who or where he would have been asked to kill.
As with everything about The Donald it's only about MONEY.
I can't hold that against him, with the means to do so, I'm sure most parents would do the same.
'W' spent the Vietnam years defending the airspace of Texas, from attack.
The t'internet seems to suggest Clinton was a little more cunning in his draft dodging.
Please don't put Trump's dodge down as some kind of moralistic higher purpose, it's nothing to do with who or where he would have been asked to kill.
As with everything about The Donald it's only about MONEY.
I wouldn't give a **** who it was you plum.
I have family that were draft dodgers because they didn't want to fight in any war for some **** of a King in England.
Smart men, missed that British **** up called Gallipoli because of their decisions.
What has racism got to do with anything?
You raise a point. Conscientious objection is a choice that should be respected. Someone not wishing to fight in a war because they findamentally believe war is wrong is , if genuine, to be respected. What you are overlooking is what we know of Trump. He ****ing loves war, he almost took us to the brink with N.Korea a few months back. He threatens to blow people off the face of the earth. And you try to convince us he dodged the draft because he objects to war? Pull the other one. He dodged the draft because he's a dirty coward and thinks that risking your life is for other, poor people. Not for him.
Tyrone Biggums
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Even the poorest of people should never be drafted into an army.
Should only ever be a free choice.
I'm not saying anything about his morals, I'm responding to the premise that dodging a draft makes someone a coward.
I wouldn't give a **** who it was you plum.
I have family that were draft dodgers because they didn't want to fight in any war for some **** of a King in England.
Smart men, missed that British **** up called Gallipoli because of their decisions.
What has racism got to do with anything?
With your thinking there never would have been a Gallipoli because England would have been divided up in the spoils of war from many past wars because there would not have been an army to defend the homeland. Heil Merkel!
You are, like Trump, defending a racist.
Tyrone Biggums
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Except you're talking about Trump 2018.
Trump has been a Democrat longer than he's been a Republican by quite a few years. SO you're saying trump in the 70's thought the same way he thinks now? I don't know many people who haven't changed in how they think over such a long time.
All US Presidents bar Jimmy Carter seem to love war. It's how they get rich from all their ties to the arms trade.
No doubt Trump now his fingers in that pie just like Obama did, like Bush did, like Clinton did and so on and so on
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