Have you ever attempted suicide?

[C1 BHA]

There will probably be a few Falmer Stadium marches to partake in.

Blimey he must be very young then

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

I can only wish

 

[Les Biehn]

I've contemplated homocide on a few occasions.

 

[Wienergull]

I've contemplated homOcide on a few occasions.

Freudian slip?

 

[rusty redeyes]

personally find this a difficult subject at any time but at this moment in time even more so. It's about this time of year about 5/6 years ago that a close friend of mine, a fellow ex South Stand STH, was told that his daughter had killed herself after struggling with many demons. And currently, my best friend is struggling with his youngest daughter (just turned 18) who is threatening all sorts, totally irrational behaviour and there is no talking to her, beyond reasoning and the situation is out of control.
I really wouldn't wish the issues my 2 friends have had to deal with on anyone, there are no easy answers when those struggling get into a downward spiral of despair.

My sympathies to anyone who has suffered a loss under these circumstances and to anyone considering, PLEASE consider your family and friends and the impact it has on them. Thank you...

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I think the general consenus from people that have never felt suicidal is that it is a cry for help or attention seeking.

That is wrong in the majority of instances.

I'd disagree, but not to trivialise the issue. Most people would be shocked at the number of people who regularly self harm, ostensibly with the aim of killing themselves, but in reality to draw attention to their feelings.

At a guess, I'd say I deal with four or five alive & kicking people every single week who have superficially cut their wrists, or taken an overdose, whereas I've been to two successful suicides in three years. They don't do it for attention in the same sense as a small child looking for the limelight, but because they're suffering from depression or some other mental illness, and in some strange way, they'd rather be surrounded by doctors & medical professionals than at home alone with their thoughts.

This is shown by the fact that nearly all of them dial 999 as soon as they've done it and end up sitting at the hospital all day. They get released, go home, do it again, etc etc, never getting any help. A very sad existence, but generally speaking, the people who really intend to end it all are the ones who just get on with it. They don't call anyone, they just go to Beachy Head, or to the nearest railway line or whatever and pull the plug, as it were.

 

[dougdeep]

If you had what I had, you'd consider it.

 

[B.M.F]

This is an interesting subject and I am not afraid to admit I tried to kill myself when I was young on a couple of occasions. At the time I could not control my temper and when I snapped if someone stopped me from getting to the person that had made me snap I would try and top myself instead. I jumped in front of a bus on Portland road but it swerved and missed me and I also tried pushing a samurai sword through my stomach but my uncle stopped me by holding onto the other end. It was at that point I learnt to control my temper and just turn the other cheek when I am battling against things. And before anyone asks I do not want to go into more detail and most of you know I am open and honest about things so you will know I am not making this sort of stuff up. I can understand the pain people go through before they try and top themselves now and like starry said it is probably the bravest decision you could do apart from maybe turning off your loved ones life machine

 

[Lady Whistledown]

A disproportionate number of people taken into police custody have self harmed at some point in their lives.

Which makes you wonder (as an equally disproportionate number have drug or alcohol problems):

-do people suffer from mental health issues because of the substance abuse
-or are they more prone to substance abuse and addictions because of the mental health issues?

 

[B.M.F]

A disproportionate number of people taken into police custody have self harmed at some point in their lives.

Which makes you wonder (as an equally disproportionate number have drug or alcohol problems):

-do people suffer from mental health issues because of the substance abuse
-or are they more prone to substance abuse and addictions because of the mental health issues?

I don't know but you do know I am off work with a mental illness and am not a substance abuser or addicted to anything so

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I don't know but you do know I am off work with a mental illness and am not a substance abuser or addicted to anything so

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that it applied to everyone

It's a hell of a thing to get over, and unfortunately still a bit of a social stigma because it's often not visible in the way a physical illness is.

Schizophrenia, for example. When you mention that, people just think of split personalities etc, and make jokes about being ten different people. I used to imagine it was like that, but I had to take part in an exercise once which really hit home how distressing and frustrating something like that must be.

 

[B.M.F]

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that it applied to everyone

It's a hell of a thing to get over, and unfortunately still a bit of a social stigma because it's often not visible in the way a physical illness is.

Schizophrenia, for example. When you mention that, people just think of split personalities etc, and make jokes about being ten different people. I used to imagine it was like that, but I had to take part in an exercise once which really hit home how distressing and frustrating something like that must be.

I know you didn't
I understand what you mean though. The thing is mental illness is massive now. It always used to be frowned upon as poeple did not believe in things like depression but my thread I did when I openly admitted to it showed me how many people do suffer from it and nearly 8 months down the road I am not better although I know the cause now so am working on that and then hopefully I will be back to normal

 

[Del Boy]

If you had what I had, you'd consider it.

Which is?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

nearly 8 months down the road I am not better although I know the cause now so am working on that and then hopefully I will be back to normal

Good luck

 

[Cian]

Considered it when on SSRIs, however thats apparently "perfectly normal". Never take drugs you can't pronouce the names of

 

[B.M.F]

Good luck

Thanks Edna

 

[Questions]

A disproportionate number of people taken into police custody have self harmed at some point in their lives.

Which makes you wonder (as an equally disproportionate number have drug or alcohol problems):

-do people suffer from mental health issues because of the substance abuse
-or are they more prone to substance abuse and addictions because of the mental health issues?

I think the illness comes first Edna in most cases. Stephen Fry`s recent documentary on his Bi-polar illness was enlightening and he said he couldn`t go out unless he had a couple of grams of coke in his pocket. Of course street drugs (or alcohol ) rarely helps people with these types of problems and can of course make their condition far worse in the long run but I do not think they trigger the condition.

 

[Brovion]

When my wife was a ward nurse she treated several attempted suicides. She said the worst ones were the ones who took an overdose of painkillers but then woke up. They apparently would be pleased they weren't dead - but were then told "Sorry, the painkillers have destroyed your liver, so you're going to die anyway." I'll spare you the details of their deaths but apparently it's not pleasant. They'd gone from wanting to kill themselves to wanting to live but couldn't. A police office told her (perhaps bearing out what Edna said earlier) that people who mean suicide often don't leave a note (or maybe just a few lines) whereas the ones that are doing it as the classic 'cry for help' sometimes write pages.

On the same topic but a different angle: did anyone see that film about suicides from the Golden Gate bridge in San Fransisco? A bloke tracked down all the people who had jumped but survived. ALL of them said the first thought that went through their heads as they launched themselves off the bridge was "Shit, I wish I hadn't done that."

 

[withdeanwombat]

Only when I ran out of petrol.