Have you been impressed with Gordon Brown?

[DIFFBROOK]

brown has approved a plan drafted by consultants . END OF .

Dont know why you keep saying consultants. Consultants may feed into policy, but they do not draft it. Civil servants do.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

This is Brown's turning point for sure. Whilst he lost his way a bit he is now acting like a leader AND a true statesman. Economics is his domain and it is really showing now. It is also allowing him to move from Blair's shadow.

Whilst things will be tough for a while yet I think that the new era for banking will actually be better for the public. This is a golden opportunity to reign in the excesses of banking and capitalism.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I would also like to suggest that all those who voted against the carpet-baggers Building Society de-mutualisations raise a glass to yourselves and say 'I was right'.

 

[Stoo82]

This is Brown's turning point for sure. Whilst he lost his way a bit he is now acting like a leader AND a true statesman. Economics is his domain and it is really showing now. It is also allowing him to move from Blair's shadow.

Whilst things will be tough for a while yet I think that the new era for banking will actually be better for the public. This is a golden opportunity to reign in the excesses of banking and capitalism.

The problem for Brown is that it could take 5 odd years (maybe longer) to fix this world ressesion. He needs it fixed by the next election. Can i just bring you up on the staesman thing. Did you see the EU sumet picture? French Pres and German Chanceller at the front centre and Brown at the back on the right? That says something to me.

 

[Stoo82]

Although it looks like the markets are doing ok today on BBC News website.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

no they're both C U N T S , this plan was engineered by UBS consultants to the treasury and the bank of england , he had f*** all to do with drafting it and as usual he's trying to take credit for something he does not deserve,a bit like the conomy for the past eleven years.

Brown runs the country, Brown chose the consultants, Brown chose to run with the plan, Brown executed the plan. He gets the credit. Simple.

 

[Stoo82]

Brown runs the country, Brown chose the consultants, Brown chose to run with the plan, Brown executed the plan. He gets the credit. Simple.

And therefore should take the fall. If it should be so.

 

[Curious Orange]

I have been entirely unimpressed with Mr Brown since he stole the pension pot and flogged the gold.

 

[DIFFBROOK]

The problem for Brown is that it could take 5 odd years (maybe longer) to fix this world ressesion. He needs it fixed by the next election. Can i just bring you up on the staesman thing. Did you see the EU sumet picture? French Pres and German Chanceller at the front centre and Brown at the back on the right? That says something to me.

That picture says the opposite. He shouldn't have been there as it was a meeting of those countries that have adoipted the Euro, which of course we haven't. The fact that Gordon was specifically invited says a lot about him and his plan.

 

[clapham_gull]

I also have been very impressed with him of late, but its a bit 'poacher turned gamekeeper'.

He says that after all this is settled he will go after the Bankers that got us in this mess, with their massive bonuses. What he neglects to mention is that he was Chancellor over this entire period and should have controlled things then.

You could use the analogy of the Falklands and Thatcher, which is quite a good analogy because after the fact...

1) Everyone forgot how unpopular her party was before

2) No-one was interested that when the dust settled, it turned out that her policies has made it much easier for the Argentinians to invade in the first place.

 

[User removed 4]

I would also like to suggest that all those who voted against the carpet-baggers Building Society de-mutualisations raise a glass to yourselves and say 'I was right'.

i didnt, i took the money gratefully ! sold my shares at the high

 

[Stoo82]

That picture says the opposite. He shouldn't have been there as it was a meeting of those countries that have adoipted the Euro, which of course we haven't. The fact that Gordon was specifically invited says a lot about him and his plan.

If that is true (i dont doubt it) then yes i guess it does. I thought it was a EU thing. But just for my on satifaction i will look it up.

 

[User removed 4]

This is Brown's turning point for sure. Whilst he lost his way a bit he is now acting like a leader AND a true statesman. Economics is his domain and it is really showing now. It is also allowing him to move from Blair's shadow.

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you carry on living in hope mate

 

[User removed 4]

Brown runs the country, Brown chose the consultants, Brown chose to run with the plan, Brown executed the plan. He gets the credit. Simple.

so can i also blame him for
a) pension deficits
b) transport
c) the nhs
d) iraq & afghanistan and troops dying because of treasury cuts to equipment budgets
e) education
d) rise in violent crime
e) immigration and any other problems ? because as you said , he runs the country .

 

[Stoo82]

That picture says the opposite. He shouldn't have been there as it was a meeting of those countries that have adoipted the Euro, which of course we haven't. The fact that Gordon was specifically invited says a lot about him and his plan.

From what i have read, this is an EU meeting. Although some countrys, i.e Finland have not been invited. Though i dont want to dwell on it.

France 24 | European leaders meet in Paris to curtail financial damage | France 24

 

[Stoo82]

so can i also blame him for
a) pension deficits
b) transport
c) the nhs
d) iraq & afghanistan and troops dying because of treasury cuts to equipment budgets
e) education
d) rise in violent crime
e) immigration and any other problems ? because as you said , he runs the country .

You forgot TAX :yahoo:

 

[Uncle C]

You could use the analogy of the Falklands and Thatcher, which is quite a good analogy because after the fact...

1) Everyone forgot how unpopular her party was before

2) No-one was interested that when the dust settled, it turned out that her policies has made it much easier for the Argentinians to invade in the first place.

Yep, gullible lot the British voters.

 

[DIFFBROOK]

The Falkland analogy might be a bit harder to sell. With The Falklands there was a decisive victory. With this financial crisis we are still heading for a recession. Maybe it might be milder and if recovery looks to be taking hold, then who knows whether it will save Browns and Labours bacon. Still 18 months to go until a General election.

On what seemed like a foregone conclusion a few weeks back, might not be the case now. Be interesting what the opinion polls say over the next week or so.

 

[ridda]

True - but he's to blame for failing to regulate lending in the first place. Too many people have warned him that the economy has been based on credit and now it's chickens coming home to roost.

The financial markets were deregulated it the eighties we are now paying for that,
Listen to George Soros.

 

[larus]

Brown runs the country, Brown chose the consultants, Brown chose to run with the plan, Brown executed the plan. He gets the credit. Simple.

Sounds good to me. I'll give him the credit for getting us in this mess in the first place then. He's a useless ****.