[Albion] Have they no shame?

[Herr Tubthumper]

Great thread

 

[Weststander]

Yes, probably (hopefully) many of them are - but maybe this is where the PFA needs to come in and co-ordinate things. A bit of transparency - and probably some targeted to the stewards and ground-staff etc. to prevent the owners going to the government (taxpayers) to pay for the furlough.

I can see both sides of the argument.

For example Spurs - colossal profits year after year, with the stadium built still £123m in the bank as at June 2019, and Spuds-licker Jenas boasting that they took more on matchdays 2019/20 than any other club (in the millions per match). Why should their players be targeted for a pay cut, over owners Joe Lewis and Levy not bearing lower profits for a few months? The players behind the scenes giving generously to NHS charities out of their net pay, seems a worthy alternative.

Then there are the loss making clubs down the PL food chain such as CP and Brighton. Players forfeiting or deferring a chunk of pay would help mitigate the losses to the club. But I'm not saying the players should.

 

[Swansman]

Go have a lie down. You are spouting complete drivel.

I "vilify the self employed".

You have no idea how angry that comment makes me when all I've done, for weeks, is work (for free) to try to help them.

I hope you get banned for trolling. Disgraceful. I also hope you have a word with yourself and realise what a horrible person you are coming across as.

Just stop it. And I am being nice, or I'd say what I really thought.

With you being hard as hell, this may or may not be the right time to tell you that someone FINALLY uploaded the whole version of "Rock the Bells" from the Def Jam tour.

 

[LlcoolJ]

With you being hard as hell, this may or may not be the right time to tell you that someone FINALLY uploaded the whole version of "Rock the Bells" from the Def Jam tour.

"hard as hell"? [emoji23]

Cheers though.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The rich keeping rich ,obscene doesn't cover it yet you'll be back falling over yourselves, reminds me of the misty n roots track Rich man
Regards
DF

 

[keaton]

You might not like the Observer but David Conn is always worth a read

Furlough furore over Premier League clubs ignores aim of protecting jobs

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...t-jobs?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

 

[Mo Gosfield]

The rich keeping rich ,obscene doesn't cover it yet you'll be back falling over yourselves, reminds me of the misty n roots track Rich man
Regards
DF

We will all be getting a shock at the next Budget ( whenever ) I reckon there will be at least 5% on all levels of income tax. ( April 21 ) There has to be. Huge holes in the Exchequer have to be filled. It can't all be borrowed. Its the only way to maintain public services at a reasonable level. Its the inevitable consequence of a prolonged lockdown and huge loss of revenue.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

I can see both sides of the argument.

Then what the bloody hell are you doing on NSC?

 

[Weststander]

I can see both sides of the argument.

Then what the bloody hell are you doing on NSC?

NSC doesn't do fence sitters.

 

[Weststander]

We will all be getting a shock at the next Budget ( whenever ) I reckon there will be at least 5% on all levels of income tax. ( April 21 ) There has to be. Huge holes in the Exchequer have to be filled. It can't all be borrowed. Its the only way to maintain public services at a reasonable level. Its the inevitable consequence of a prolonged lockdown and huge loss of revenue.

It's generally accepted by both left and right wing think tanks that taxes will rise to service the huge new increase in public debt. That's without even tackling the capital balance.

 

[LlcoolJ]

It's generally accepted by both left and right wing think tanks that taxes will rise to service the huge new increase in public debt. That's without even tackling the capital balance.

How to do that while trying to kickstart an economy that's in recession will be an interesting problem to solve.

I think tax increases will be secondary, for a while.

It would be economic madness to bump tax up when you have a worldwide economic disaster.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

We will all be getting a shock at the next Budget ( whenever ) I reckon there will be at least 5% on all levels of income tax. ( April 21 ) There has to be. Huge holes in the Exchequer have to be filled. It can't all be borrowed. Its the only way to maintain public services at a reasonable level. Its the inevitable consequence of a prolonged lockdown and huge loss of revenue.

Possibly ,the money has to come from somewhere
We will have to wait and see
Regards
DF

 

[Weststander]

How to do that while trying to kickstart an economy that's in recession will be an interesting problem to solve.

I think tax increases will be secondary, for a while.

It would be economic madness to bump tax up when you have a worldwide economic disaster.

Absolutely. At record low public borrowing rates including gilts, getting the economy going will be the number one priority.

The Resolution Foundation, for example, were just answering questions about how fiscally will the UK deal with the final bill

 

[nickjhs]

How many people on here have offered to take a pay cut from their employers? - thought not.

Seriously, do I really need to explain how this is very different for the vast majority of the folk out there?

 

[Winker]

Seriously, do I really need to explain how this is very different for the vast majority of the folk out there?

Go on then, I'm confused!

 

[Weststander]

Go on then, I'm confused!

Butting in, he’s probably asleep. I guess he’d say because the average worker cannot afford to take a pay-cut.

Whereas someone earning between £60k to £375k every single week, can afford to.

 

[nickjhs]

Go on then, I'm confused!

Exactly as Weststander has said.
Also if you dont see something wrong with laying off non playing staff many of whom live pay day to pay day, while maintaining the ridiculously high salaries of millionaires? Or that these millionaires still demand payment in such times? If you think that the ethical thing to expect in a time like this that the support staff lose their livelihoods when a modest paycut to extraordinarily wealthy football players could avert this, then I am glad I dont share your world view.