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[Football] Has Graham Bitten Off More Than He Can Chew?







ManOfSussex

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Apr 11, 2016
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It's like getting dumped by your childhood sweetheart ...(who turned out to be a vacuous whore) and going on to date a supermodel.
I reckon the Italian supermodel is better in bed too than a bloke from Birmingham called Gra-ham.
 


trueblue

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Genuinely, I wonder if buy-success Boehly will try to buy both Caicedo and Mac Allister in the summer. Plus others from across the globe.

Get the impression, like Abramovich, acquisitions is his one route to success.

Then the coach, whether it be Potter or successor, will be labelled “doing a good job”. The media airbrushing out the outspending everyone else bit.
If they do keep Potter, I’m not sure throwing all these players at him will help much. They have no coherent strategy and he’ll just have an even more bloated squad with unhappy players not getting a game. A big squad may just lead him into endless and unhelpful tinkering.
 


Weststander

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Had he not be headhunted from us, I would have thought it quite admirable that Chelsea went for an up and coming English coach, although I am still the opinion they got a bit nervous about Southgate not continuing after the World Cup and accelerated their plans to secure Potter ahead of the England Job being vacate.

Chelsea must have known looking at Potter with us that it would take time for him to get his ideas across so it shouldn't really be a surprise. If Boehly is trying to move aware from the chaotic - although not un-entirely successful managerial merry go round under the previous owner then he should have priced this in.
Chavs supporters liked that merry go round. It brought undreamed of success. Pretty much the continental model in Italy, France and Spain for example.
 


trueblue

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I'm frankly not seeing that from Chelsea fans. Most seem to want Tuchel back, including those who made the long trip to Manchester on a Sunday night in winter with no trains.
I know several Chelsea fans. None of them wanted Tuchel sacked at the time and none of them were enthusiastic about Potter as an ‘upgrade’.
 




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So those with the most Chelsea away points who spend a fortune on coke that most Brighton fans would think twice about are to be ignored and those that have been following the club for decades and make the effort to phone the BBC to voice their opinion are not?

I thought you believed in representative samples?
Corrected for you.

Neither sample are representative, are they. They are both self-selecting.
 




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Absolutely right.

We may not be the shareholders, but we are and will always be the club's most important stakeholders.

“Few of us have chosen our clubs, they have simply been presented to us; and so as they slip from Second Division to the Third, or sell their best players, or buy players who you know can't play, or bash the ball the seven hundredth time towards a nine foot centre-forward, we simply curse, go home, worry for a fortnight and then come back to suffer all over again.”

Nick Hornby, Fever Pitch
Said the Arsenal supporter, just after they'd won the league, having not been out of the top flight for decades.

And he's an ugly ****, too.
 




Swansman

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But will he require £100m’s more to get there? Unable to coach their hugely expensive squad of internationals to success.
Yup, he will. Arteta was unable to coach the hugely expensive squad he took over to success... because they were overrated and not compatible with each other. Same goes for Chelsea. There is no one in here who would rather have Pulisic than Mitoma or Jorginho rather than Caicedo and so on... spending helps, but if you spend it on shit, it really isn't that useful.
 


Sarisbury Seagull

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Bloom gave him time and when it finally started to appear to work he f***ed off without a second thought. I found that amusing for all the wrong reasons especially the Potter fan boys who supported him more than the club or so it appeared.
Bollocks.

Those of us who strongly supported Potter even in the fallow periods did so because we could see that in the long run he was hugely improving our club and we saw the fruits of that at the end of last season and so far this season, not because we ever supported him more than the club.

Along with others at the club, he transformed our long term fortunes and image in his time with us and as much as I dislike him for leaving and I’m enjoying Chelsea’s struggles now, I’ll always respect him for what he did for us.

He is a quality coach/manager but unfortunately for him, he’s gone to the wrong club this time. He’ll be back.
 








METALMICKY

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Bollocks.

Those of us who strongly supported Potter even in the fallow periods did so because we could see that in the long run he was hugely improving our club and we saw the fruits of that at the end of last season and so far this season, not because we ever supported him more than the club.

Along with others at the club, he transformed our long term fortunes and image in his time with us and as much as I dislike him for leaving and I’m enjoying Chelsea’s struggles now, I’ll always respect him for what he did for us.

He is a quality coach/manager but unfortunately for him, he’s gone to the wrong club this time. He’ll be back.
" He'll be back?" Forever grateful for what he did with us but sorry the manner of his departure would not allow me to welcome him back. " sorry chaps I jumped ship with the little coaching/recruitment gang and am made for life but can I have my old job back?" But for the superb succession planning of our club his departure could have been a disaster.
 


Swansman

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" He'll be back?" Forever grateful for what he did with us but sorry the manner of his departure would not allow me to welcome him back. " sorry chaps I jumped ship with the little coaching/recruitment gang and am made for life but can I have my old job back?" But for the superb succession planning of our club his departure could have been a disaster.
I think perhaps he meant "back" as in "he'll be back as a successful coach somewhere".
 




e77

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Chavs supporters liked that merry go round. It brought undreamed of success. Pretty much the continental model in Italy, France and Spain for example.
TBF Chelsea have had some success with it but I am not sure they had the setup behind the scenes to ensure constant success between head coaches.
 




Swansman

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Fine. Just don't like the objectification of bodies that comes with the fashion industry. Similar to pornography I think there is something about the concept of selling the body (in sexualised condition) for money, which basically both most types of modelling and most types of pornography is, certainly is in the same ballpark as prostitution.
 


GT49er

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" He'll be back?" Forever grateful for what he did with us but sorry the manner of his departure would not allow me to welcome him back. " sorry chaps I jumped ship with the little coaching/recruitment gang and am made for life but can I have my old job back?" But for the superb succession planning of our club his departure could have been a disaster.
It worked quite well for Smug Eddie.
 




Me and my Monkey

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Fine. Just don't like the objectification of bodies that comes with the fashion industry. Similar to pornography I think there is something about the concept of selling the body (in sexualised condition) for money, which basically both most types of modelling and most types of pornography is, certainly is in the same ballpark as prostitution.
A whore is a woman (usually) who accepts money to allow a man (usually) to insert his penis (usually) in some or other bodily orifice of hers, or to indulge in some other sexual activity with her body being the object of the transaction. I'd imagine that on the whole most women involved in prostitution never had this down as a dream career when they were growing up. A supermodel is a women who exhibits clothes upon her body for the benefit of a designer of clothes to promote their lines and sell their clothes. Its not really the same thing. Very many young girls would love to be supermodels for the glamour, money and "fame" it would bring them. Saying that, modelling is full of pitfalls and the girls very vulnerable to exploitation, and you need to be savvy young woman to negotiate the dangers.
 


I hope he fails and gets the boot.

Why? Because for me, Potter was always the embodiment of the greed that festers in professional football.

It‘s impossible to conceive he left to join Chelsea for anything but the money and this was reflected by his cold, detached view of the Albion. Even when the club stood by him in the darker spells, he never looked particularly grateful, just miserable, nonchalant.

Yes, the likes of Klopp, Pep etc also earn monstrous pay packets but they do actually seem to care about their respective clubs, their history, their fanbase.

Potter never seemed more than a narcissist, waving frantically from the shop window - I‘M A TACTICAL GOD, COME AND GET ME….
This. Bells on.
 


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