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[Football] Has Graham Bitten Off More Than He Can Chew?
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BadFish
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Yes I thought the blinded by emotion comment was interesting.
They call it projection I think .
Potter is lucky to have such a passionate fanboy. Might also be lucky there are several miles between them too
I agree, maybe Potter should stop sulking then.
Neville's Breakfast
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Agreed. At BHA we proudly speak about the structure as being all important. Even fans of failing clubs like Everton get that firing Lampard without fundamental changes in how the club is run is a waste of time. Chelsea signed Potter to make that change and build for the future. I reckon the American will follow through and pick sides …..with GP.
I think it's interesting when a manager, any manager, but especially a "new" one takes on a big ego based club.Or do what has to be done - with the Andone and Connolly clones......
Personally I don't think they are all unmanageable. Ziyesh has been a different player under Potter - almost humble. Mount, however - total dick today. They looked like they expected to lose. On the pitch that's down to them.
Potter has not publicly thrown the dicks under a bus, either. And the squad has not downed tools (like they did under Maureen II). There may be tools that need to be downed though, and I'm sure that will happen. Perhaps a mass clear out at the end of the season?
But there are a lot of expensive contracts there, and who would be queuing up to take them on, this minute. Fancy any of them at Brighton? None immediately spring to mind. That may change. We shall see.
As I'm sure you'll agree when talking to a group of engaging people you can really feel rewarded and they can be excited about what they have been taught. Conversely when you get a load of wasters you feel completely knackered and drained. One expects Potter to be worn out at the moment.
He needs to get some players in who want to play for him. Probably rules out March and Alzate. Interested the mention often of Trossard on the radar, I wonder if he liked his many positions including WB
herecomesaregular
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Nail. Head. End of. Panto villains and stupid chants to the away fans (in the ground) is what makes it fun. Taking it too seriously outside the ground (and having aggro outside the ground) is daft imho.At the end of the day, football is a pantomime. You don’t just support your club, you dislike the chosen villains at any given time too. There will normally be a couple of long term targets but also a lot of smaller targets that come and go.
When I first started going it was Chesterfield and Scott McGleish. Since then it’s been dozens of different players and clubs. Southampton, Nigel Adkins, Mike Dean, Reading, Joey Barton and a whole host more I can’t currently think of.
Graham Potter is just one the current Panto villains. He’s a punchline, an easy target mak, the butt of the joke. But that’s it. Nobody actually hates them. Nobody is going to run up and swing for him in the middle of Churchill Square. Nobody is going to see Cucurella in La Galleria and drag him out and launch him in the River Adur.
Anybody trying to diagnose people laughing at Potter as anything for more than football fans doing what they’ve done for generations sadly misses half the point of being a football fan which is pretty sad.
I’ve said it about Cucurella and I’ll say it about Potter too. You’d have to be a sick man to find their situation funny, and I’m in critical condition
Justice
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Exactly this it’s funny seeing a few take it so seriously. On one hand the same people pretend they are staunch Bloom fans and then stand up for the bloke who let him down after all the support he gave him with a job security six year deal.At the end of the day, football is a pantomime. You don’t just support your club, you dislike the chosen villains at any given time too. There will normally be a couple of long term targets but also a lot of smaller targets that come and go.
When I first started going it was Chesterfield and Scott McGleish. Since then it’s been dozens of different players and clubs. Southampton, Nigel Adkins, Mike Dean, Reading, Joey Barton and a whole host more I can’t currently think of.
Graham Potter is just one the current Panto villains. He’s a punchline, an easy target, the butt of the joke. But that’s it. Nobody actually hates them. Nobody is going to run up and swing for him in the middle of Churchill Square. Nobody is going to see Cucurella in La Galleria and drag him out and launch him in the River Adur.
Anybody trying to diagnose people laughing at Potter as anything for more than football fans doing what they’ve done for generations sadly misses half the point of being a football fan which is pretty sad.
I’ve said it about Cucurella and I’ll say it about Potter too. You’d have to be a sick man to find their situation funny, and I’m in critical condition
The Albion hierarchy are also playing their part saying how RDZ is a much better coach than Potter which I found amusing.
Whitechapel
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Exactly.
It’s the reason nobody looks at the Old Firm and thinks “I wish our rivalry was more like that”
Undoubtedly more passionate than any other rivalry game in the UK, it generates some of the best atmospheres you’ll ever see but it turns Panto Villains in to the actual devil and leads to players being sent bullets in the post and whatever else goes on up there.
In comparison we’re laughing at an ex-manager who isn’t doing very well.
Yep, all the great stuff he did for us was significantly negated for me the minute he f***ed off with very, very indecent haste to the first big cheque waved in his direction, taking not just ’his’ boys but ‘ours’ in the process. I am going to enjoy every minute of Chelsea crashing and burning this season (yes I know they’ll come out of their current slump and probably finish above us, but in the meantime **** ‘em, and if he’s still there next time we play them I’ll be giving him dog’s abuse)
Neville's Breakfast
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It’s not as black and white as that. I was very critical of Potter whilst he was at BHA. I was also very supportive at other times. I just call it as I see it at any given time and prefer not to be in the in or out camp. In all those Icy polls I think I voted out just the once, no vote (fence) a few times but mostly ‘in,’ albeit sometimes a little lukewarmly. No change and the only vote that counted was Tony’s anyway. Mine are just comments about the state of Chelsea and they are not influenced by a view of Potter but by the American’s stated backing of his Potter project. It would make no sense to ditch that so quickly.
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Does anyone know if there is a market for 2nd hand Schadenfreude. I seem to have a lot more than I need.
Horses Arse
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Or bringing the DJ on, or perhaps just the frustration of seeing decent performances not getting the results they deserve. Plus frustration that there was not the urgency/pace in our attacks. All legitimate.
His response was unwise, snarky, childish and emotionally unintelligent
Yes, you're right. My final year BSc classes are keen and attentive. On the other hand I long ago refused to do 'year one' medicine tutorials because the students are a bunch of entitled twats, openly yawning (till I bollock them or chuck them out, whence they shit themselves). Perhaps there's a lesson there.....
Quite a few comments here about our team's response to Potter after the Chelsea match. Can anybody muster up any footage demonstrating this? I wasn't there and I don't remember seeing any of it at the time.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall of Potter's brain right now. It would be fascinating to know how he's feeling about his current predicament, if he even spares a moment to consider the little club he left behind or whether that chapter has been shut down entirely.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall of Potter's brain right now. It would be fascinating to know how he's feeling about his current predicament, if he even spares a moment to consider the little club he left behind or whether that chapter has been shut down entirely.
They just shook hands, not much to see.
Baldseagull
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He did go back to the training ground to clear out his desk etc.
My guess is, he waltzed in there half expecting all the players to congratulate him on his new job, all full of smiles, and they all felt as let down as we did and didn't like the fact that he was seemingly unapologetic about leaving them, and taking every coach they had worked with for the last 3 years.
The down side to his "caring" about the person style of management, when you drop all those people you cared about like a hot potato, they get a bit hurt. I am sure its a great way to manage if it is genuine.
Just a guess though, you never know, he might be the first name on all the players Xmas card list.