Has any team ever had 51 points at this stage and failed to gain automatic?

[larus]

Be interesting to know. Not that it would mean that we are certain to go up, but be interesting if a team has ever imploded that much.

After all, 11 wins from 23 remaining games would put us on 84 points which doesn't sound that difficult really. Reading would still need 41 points to match us, which is only just less than they have achieved to date.

 

[Nixonator]

I hope someone has, else it would be just like us to set the precedent

 

[larus]

I hope someone has, else it would be just like us to set the precedent

Actually, I can't see us not making it now. Not complacency, buy I do think the overall balance and depth of the squad is better now. And, defensively, we are so strong now. Just 14 conceded, 15 for Derby and 18 for Newcastle.

 

[Eeyore]

Be interesting to know. Not that it would mean that we are certain to go up, but be interesting if a team has ever imploded that much.

After all, 11 wins from 23 remaining games would put us on 84 points which doesn't sound that difficult really. Reading would still need 41 points to match us, which is only just less than they have achieved to date.

Quite a few (I have time on my hands...)

Late December

Points-Games-Final Position

2005:

Reading 65 (26) 1st- 106
Sheffield United 56 (26) 2nd

Both 50+ after 23.

2006:

Birmingham City 52 (25) 2nd

46 after 23.

2008:

Wolverhampton Wanderers 57 (25) 1st
Reading 50 (25) 4th

Wolverhampton Wanderers 53 after 23

2009:

Newcastle United 51 (24) 1st- 102

50 after 23

None since 2009/10

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

The last team to get 50 points as early as 23 games was Newcastle in 2009-2010, whose manager was Chris Hughton...

 

[larus]

Quite a few (I have time on my hands...)

Late December

Points-Games-Final Position

2005:

Reading 65 (26) 1st- 106
Sheffield United 56 (26) 2nd

Both 50+ after 23.

2006:

Birmingham City 52 (25) 2nd

46 after 23.

2008:

Wolverhampton Wanderers 57 (25) 1st
Reading 50 (25) 4th

Wolverhampton Wanderers 53 after 23

2009:

Newcastle United 51 (24) 1st- 102

50 after 23

None since 2009/10

So no team has failed to go up from where we are then. That's one record I hope we don't break

 

[larus]

The last team to get 50 points as early as 23 games was Newcastle in 2009-2010, whose manager was Chris Hughton...

Be superb if he could do the same for us and get us the title too. Maybe I'm dreaming a little too much, too soon.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

So no team has failed to go up from where we are then. That's one record I hope we don't break

The nearest thing I can find was Ipswich in 2014-15, who got to 50 points after 26 games and then slumped to finish 6th

 

[Bozza]

Failing to go up from.here? Sounds like #TheDerbyWay.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Failing to go up from.here? Sounds like #TheDerbyWay.

More like the Ipswich way... 3 times in 17 seasons this century has a team been first to 50 points and failed to go up, twice Ipswich - although the worst collapse is Burnley in 2001-02, from 50 points after 25 games to 75 after 46 and missing out on the play-offs

but do it in 24 games or quicker and you're golden

first to 50;

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[pottert]

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[Captain Sensible]

Quite a few (I have time on my hands...)

Late December

Points-Games-Final Position

2005:

Reading 65 (26) 1st- 106
Sheffield United 56 (26) 2nd

Both 50+ after 23.

2006:

Birmingham City 52 (25) 2nd

46 after 23.

2008:

Wolverhampton Wanderers 57 (25) 1st
Reading 50 (25) 4th

Wolverhampton Wanderers 53 after 23

2009:

Newcastle United 51 (24) 1st- 102

50 after 23

None since 2009/10

Sorry What?
For some reason, probably to do with jet lag and beer, I have no idea what your post is about. But I desperately want to understand it as my nerves are shot.

 

[GT49er]

Quite a few (I have time on my hands...)

Late December

Points-Games-Final Position

2005:

Reading 65 (26) 1st- 106
Sheffield United 56 (26) 2nd

Both 50+ after 23.

2006:

Birmingham City 52 (25) 2nd

46 after 23.

2008:

Wolverhampton Wanderers 57 (25) 1st
Reading 50 (25) 4th

Wolverhampton Wanderers 53 after 23

2009:

Newcastle United 51 (24) 1st- 102

50 after 23

None since 2009/10

So Reading and Wolves didn't get automatics, then?

 

[Eeyore]

So Reading and Wolves didn't get automatics, then?

Sorry What?
For some reason, probably to do with jet lag and beer, I have no idea what your post is about. But I desperately want to understand it as my nerves are shot.

Apologies. It was merely to show the fate of the clubs that had reached 50 points at this week in the season as well as after 23 games. I should have stated that.

It appears that only Reading missed out after having 50 points by this day. None have missed out after having 50 points from 23. The records go back to 2005/06.

 

[GT49er]

Apologies. It was merely to show the fate of the clubs that had reached 50 points at this week in the season as well as after 23 games. I should have stated that.

It appears that only Reading missed out after having 50 points by this day. None have missed out after having 50 points from 23. The records go back to 2005/06.

Fair enough - no problem, and no apology needed. Stats, eh?

I think we can all agree that 51 points from the first half of the season is pretty f*ck*n' good! Winning half of the rest, and picking up a few draws, should do it from now (although I'd like us to push for 100 points please).

 

[Uter]

Yes. Wigan 1999-2000, Division 2.

28/12/99: Played 23 W14 D9 L0 F45 A19 GD+26 Points 51 Position: 1st

Final table: Played 46 W22 D17 L7 F72 A38 GD+34 Points 83 Position: 4th

Gillingham, who had 42 points after 23 games finished above them in 3rd on 85 points and went up via the play-offs.

 

[Eeyore]

Fair enough - no problem, and no apology needed. Stats, eh?

I think we can all agree that 51 points from the first half of the season is pretty f*ck*n' good! Winning half of the rest, and picking up a few draws, should do it from now (although I'd like us to push for 100 points please).

I think that there may have been a pitch invasion at Reading when they reached the half century...

 

[Eeyore]

Yes. Wigan 1999-2000, Division 2.

28/12/99: Played 23 W14 D9 L0 F45 A19 GD+26 Points 51 Position: 1st

Final table: Played 46 W22 D17 L7 F72 A38 GD+34 Points 83 Position: 4th

Gillingham, who had 42 points after 23 games finished above them in 3rd on 85 points and went up via the play-offs.

Yes, pretty rotten for Wigan Athletic as they were leading with little time remaining. It wasn't brought about by a change of manager either.

 

[GT49er]

I think that there may have been a pitch invasion at Reading when they reached the half century...

Didn't they have a very brief one of those in 2014 too? Around May..................

 

[OzMike]

You just know that something unexpected is going to happen that puts it all at risk, it's just the Brighton way.