severnside gull
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Tastes like fermented rats vomit to me, maybe I need a beard, sandals and a metal detector to appreciate it?
Hey hey now!
I haven't got a metal detector!
Tastes like fermented rats vomit to me, maybe I need a beard, sandals and a metal detector to appreciate it?
This is simply not true. There are a number of small UK breweries which make great lagers which are not premium: Brewdog 77, Meantime make a number of different lagers, Hepworth Blonde, Camden Brewery lager and Thornbridge make a Kolsh style drink as do Meantime. I could go on. All are distinct in taste. Then there's a host of German imports like Warsteiner, Krombacher which are available in Brighton. I think I have seen Rothaus as well.
And the likelihood of one of them being widely available throughout The Amex is?
Also, Krombacker, Bitburger and Warsteiner are the 2,3,4th biggest selling breweries in Germany. Their lagers which are sold over here are decent, cheap and entry level; not premium in the slightest. I'm sorry but to say lager is lager is simply plain ignorant.
Do you wear sandals? We are talking mainstream beers here-you have gone off on a "I'll drag out some obscure beers to make my point" route. DO you really consider the beers you mention as 'normal' lagers? These are the ones I consider to be impossible to tell apart. I'm well aware of the German beers you've mentioned.
This is simply not true. There are a number of small UK breweries which make great lagers which are not premium: Brewdog 77, Meantime make a number of different lagers, Hepworth Blonde, Camden Brewery lager and Thornbridge make a Kolsh style drink as do Meantime. I could go on. All are distinct in taste. Then there's a host of German imports like Warsteiner, Krombacher which are available in Brighton. I think I have seen Rothaus as well.
Kolsh is not a lager it is a top fermented beer.
It could also be called a pale ale but I think it is fair to group it in with lagers.
the modern Kölsch (the beer) is Germany's only true, all-barley, pale ale. The other German pale ale is, of course, the Bavarian Weissbier or Weizen
not really lager though, its considered ale. from your source:
in the end it occupies the intersection of lager/ale in the venn diagram of beer. lagers are bottom fermented and lagered, british ales are top fermented with short storage, some europeans like to mix the two.
as someone who enjoys the whole range of brewed hop infusions, it has to be said that overall the bottom fermented/lagered beverage is more uniform in its flavor. they rely much more on hop variation and there isnt so much variation amongst them (about three main hops, Saaz, Tettenanger and Hallertau family). mean while the ales use both hop variation from a much broader palette, but also gain alot from the top fermenting yeast that give more differences.
i do recall the Bitburger in particular was inexpensive in the past, not perceived as a premium brand, so maybe there are cheap options available. some of the others mentioned, like Meantime and Brewdog, aint cheap.
not really lager though, its considered ale. from your source:
in the end it occupies the intersection of lager/ale in the venn diagram of beer. lagers are bottom fermented and lagered (long, cool conditioning), british ales are top fermented with short conditioning, some europeans like to mix the two.
as someone who enjoys the whole range of brewed hop infusions, it has to be said that overall the bottom fermented/lagered beverage is more uniform in its flavor. they rely much more on hop variation and there isnt so much variation amongst them (about three main hops, Saaz, Tettenanger and Hallertau family). mean while the ales use both hop variation from a much broader palette, but also gain alot from the top fermenting yeast that give more differences.
i do recall the Bitburger in particular was inexpensive in the past, not perceived as a premium brand, so maybe there are cheap options available. some of the others mentioned, like Meantime and Brewdog, aint cheap.
I was thinking more along the lines of a brewery conglomerate supplying their own beers and lagers in a virtual exclusivity deal throughout the stadium. This would be tied into a shirt sponsorship deal (current shirt sponsorship expires at the end of the season)
not really lager though, its considered ale. from your source:
in the end it occupies the intersection of lager/ale in the venn diagram of beer. lagers are bottom fermented and lagered (long, cool conditioning), british ales are top fermented with short conditioning, some europeans like to mix the two.
as someone who enjoys the whole range of brewed hop infusions, it has to be said that overall the bottom fermented/lagered beverage is more uniform in its flavor. they rely much more on hop variation and there isnt so much variation with three main hops, Saaz, Tettenanger and Hallertau family. meanwhile the ales uses hop variation from a much broader palette, but also gain alot from the top fermenting yeast that give more differences.
i do recall the Bitburger in particular was inexpensive in the past, not perceived as a premium brand, so maybe there are cheap options available. some of the others mentioned, like Meantime and Brewdog, aint cheap.
It has to be said that overall the bottom fermented/lagered beverage is more uniform in its flavour.
I guess that means bland, or perhaps sameish.
that is a cracking site btw, the question begs, will there be lagers at the micropub?