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North East Stand.
But that shouldn't make him immune from any crititism if warranted.
And you should know about that.
But that shouldn't make him immune from any crititism if warranted.
I'm not sure that's quite fair. When you look at the paragraphs he posted related to NSC virtually all of it is true in my opinion:
"It’s not as if the alarm bells didn’t start ringing with some supporters early on. And it’s clear that it’s polarised opinion on the legendary Albion internet forum, NorthStandChat."TRUE, NSC is always polarised!
"Fans who did express initial concerns were dismissed by another faction of the support in a graphic and uncomplimentary term – a barb which has come back to haunt its original authors in recent weeks." TRUE lots of posters who questioned what Barber said were shot down in flames, as is often the case on NSC, so what but undoubtedly TRUE
"In fact, the whole saga has almost appeared to split the support on NSC, which, is something, as both an Albion fan and someone who enjoys reading NSC, that is almost as worrying as the Albion’s form." TRUE as above
"I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed." TRUE one controversial thread was deleted. And TRUE Harty is not suggesting that NSC is being controlled by Barber. Hence his first sentence.
So which bit should he be apologising for fellow mods?
All I can report is four text messages and one 15 minute phone conversation - since 6.30pm yesterday evening.I wonder whether he will contact everyone in his mobile phone and apologise after the last time this happened.
All I can report is four text messages and one 15 minute phone conversation - since 6.30pm yesterday evening.
"I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed." TRUE one controversial thread was deleted. And TRUE Harty is not suggesting that NSC is being controlled by Barber. Hence his first sentence.
So which bit should he be apologising for fellow mods?
I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed." TRUE one controversial thread was deleted. And TRUE Harty is not suggesting that NSC is being controlled by Barber. Hence his first sentence.
So which bit should he be apologising for fellow mods?
"I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum, but as emotions run high certain threads have been deemed controversial /libellous by moderators and have been removed." TRUE one controversial thread was deleted. And TRUE Harty is not suggesting that NSC is being controlled by Barber. Hence his first sentence.
So which bit should he be apologising for fellow mods?
What thread was deleted then?
1. Despite saying that "I’m not for one minute suggesting that Paul Barber, or anyone else at the club is controlling or censoring the forum" he was very clearly sowing the seed of thought for his readers that the club do have an active hand in what content is allowed to stand on NSC, and is also responsible for trying to set an editorial tone. That was confirmed on Friday night when Harty revealed he had taken 2 added another 2 and come up with 739.
2. I'm not sure I even know what thread you are talking about. Regardless, the article mentioned 'threads'. Plural. There is a very clear indication that widespread censorship has been taking place when the fact is threads that are controversial are NEVER removed. You don't have to look very far on NSC to see that is the case. The only threads that are removed are those which could get either an NSC user, NSC and/or me into legal trouble. I may be slightly more conservative than some but for that I make no apology - it's my name that sits behind NSC. If you are happy to gamble with your own finances and the home of your children etc then go and set up your own site and allow all manner of potentially libellous content to be written. It's very easy to be reckless if you don't believe there is any risk to yourself.
[MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] I completely agree with your approach to running the forum. It's your forum and you can do exactly what you want and you do a brilliant job for which we are all very grateful. I am simply stating the facts as I know them as I feel that the whole thread has gone away from the original Ian Hart article.
You are correct in that only one thread vaguely relating to the subject was deleted. However we both know that the club and other clubs in general look at forums much more and libel action has been threatened against individual posters or yourself if anyone says anything libellous against anyone at the club. That is a fact and as a result I believe that to some degree means that a more conservative moderating outlook has to be taken. It doesn't mean widespread censorship has occured as Harty says he is not saying it has and neither am I but it does change things a little bit. We can argue over scale perhaps but surely you can't deny that in the last couple of years the probability of legal action from the club against this forum has increased. To say that doesn't change the way it is moderated to some degree is non sensical.
To say that doesn't change the way it is moderated to some degree is non sensical.
Genuine LOL!The one about Paul Barber killing puppies and kittens to comply with FFP.
The one about Paul Barber killing puppies and kittens to comply with FFP.
Was that from Harty or the phone sex line you use to cheer yourself up whenever the Albion don't win at home?
I thought you had set up a shell company which actually owned NSC to protect yourself from this sort of thing. There used to be a note right at the bottom of the home page - something like "so and so ltd trading as NSC" (I've forgotten the actual details), but it disappeared after one of the upgrades.it's my name that sits behind NSC. If you are happy to gamble with your own finances and the home of your children etc then go and set up your own site and allow all manner of potentially libellous content to be written. It's very easy to be reckless if you don't believe there is any risk to yourself.
We want Jamie back, unedited. Bet that was Barber's fault too.Poogate, Harty and everything else you can remove/ban to your hearts content BUT whatever happened to a thread full of beautiful women? Now that was SUPERB.