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Fungus

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May 21, 2004
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Truro
I wish we could reinstate an Englishman, St Edmund as England's Patron Saint.
Wales is the only part of the United Kingdom that has a Patron Saint who is a native. Andrew was born in the Middle East and Patrick was Welsh.

And St Piran of Cornwall only came here because he was chucked out of his native Ireland.
 


Butch Willykins

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Jun 17, 2011
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Shoreham-by-Sea
I had to look this up. But, it’s one of the many names for “Carnival” which is popular in certain areas. And the carnival season relates to lent. This is absolutely massive in areas like Cologne.

I think it's a catholic thing. My head office is in the Netherlands (Limburg region), very close to German border. They go proper nuts for carnvial. Whereas colleagues living in the northern Netherlands couldn't care less.
 








Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Why would I celebrate our tinpot country? Only decent thing is the pubs!

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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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I think it's a catholic thing. My head office is in the Netherlands (Limburg region), very close to German border. They go proper nuts for carnvial. Whereas colleagues living in the northern Netherlands couldn't care less.

Agree. Parts of Germany go proper mental with thousands and thousands on the streets in costume, Berlin couldn’t give a shit.

On a slightly related note I never realised how religious Germany is until I moved here. Its not as overt as say Spain and Italy but it’s as strong and ingrained and pervasive as those two.
 






Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,517
Worthing
So you don't think "To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life" was a perfectly accurate statement at the time it was made? Strange.........

No I don’t think it strange at all a statement if made by someone born into the upper middle classes and then luckily able to leave the damp winters of this country behind (he was a wheezy kid) and join his hugely successful brother n Africa and then helped to become one of the richest and subsequently most influential men in that continent.
No not strange at all.
 


alfredmizen

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Mar 11, 2015
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I had to look this up. But, it’s one of the many names for “Carnival” which is popular in certain areas. And the carnival season relates to lent. This is absolutely massive in areas like Cologne.

yes mate near where i was based in north rhein westphalia , the dour german is a bit of a myth i my experience
 


Monkey Man

Your support is not that great
Jan 30, 2005
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Neither here nor there
I always celebrate St George's Day, what with it being my birthday and all. It's fine just as it is. I'd hate to see my special day become too commercialised.
 




alfredmizen

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Mar 11, 2015
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Why would I celebrate our tinpot country? Only decent thing is the pubs!

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just when i was becoming relatively ambivalent to you , you manage to.reinforce your pr1ck status again
 


A1X

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Deepest, darkest Sussex


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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just when i was becoming relatively ambivalent to you , you manage to.reinforce your pr1ck status again
Of course you love our country, it's drilled into your head in the force's, I however think we're run by complete imbeciles .

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Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Just because the day means nothing to me doesn't deny me the opportunity to give thoughts.

Why is being indifferent a sign of self-loathing ? On the contrary, whilst being proud of many an English attribute I consider it more beneficial when it becomes an attribute rather than an over riding constructor of character.

I get the feeling of pride in all things good from England. I'm fine with it. But I'm sure as hell not going to let it demand loyalty from me. And I'm certainly not going to stop it from quenching a thirst to learn from other places and peoples.

I was born, I live here and pay my taxes. I try to be a benefit to others. That's the full extent of my loyalty. I just don't know what a national day is for. Explain it to me. Perhaps I am genuinely missing something here.
You have missed my point. You claim to be indifferent but you're not. You've lots to say on the subject and lots of feelings about it , mainly hand-wringing and guilt.
 


alfredmizen

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Mar 11, 2015
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Of course you love our country, it's drilled into your head in the force's, I however think we're run by complete imbeciles .

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its not drilled in , and the pride i have in our country has got absolutely fvck all to do with people who run things
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
Of course you love our country, it's drilled into your head in the force's, I however think we're run by complete imbeciles .

Having a healthy disdain for the 'imbeciles' that run our beautiful nation, and loving the country itself are far from mutually exclusive.

Your attitude seems a silly one. A bit 'sixth-form' if that's not too condescending.

One can absolutely shun the jingoism and the nationalism, unless you're that way inclined, but still celebrate Britain's fine achievements and merits. The feats of engineering and science. The magnificent contributions to art and film and most especially music. The humour and kind nature of our people. Above all the beauty of our fine little island.
 


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Having a healthy disdain for the 'imbeciles' that run our beautiful nation, and loving the country itself are far from mutually exclusive.

Your attitude seems a silly one. A bit 'sixth-form' if that's not too condescending.

One can absolutely shun the jingoism and the nationalism, unless you're that way inclined, but still celebrate Britain's fine achievements and merits. The feats of engineering and science. The magnificent contributions to art and film and most especially music. The humour and kind nature of our people. Above all the beauty of fine island.
Modern art? Ffs
The towns aren't beautiful and most people are ********s.

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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
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Worthing
Having a healthy disdain for the 'imbeciles' that run our beautiful nation, and loving the country itself are far from mutually exclusive.

Your attitude seems a silly one. A bit 'sixth-form' if that's not too condescending.

One can absolutely shun the jingoism and the nationalism, unless you're that way inclined, but still celebrate Britain's fine achievements and merits. The feats of engineering and science. The magnificent contributions to art and film and most especially music. The humour and kind nature of our people. Above all the beauty of our fine little island.

God you bought a tear to my eye there Hansy with those last few lines.
 


BrickTamland

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Mar 2, 2010
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Brighton
Living abroad has provided me with mixed feelings on the matter. I find myself talking England and it’s achievements up, our contributions to music, film culture etc, sometimes to the point of homesickness. However everytime I meet a drunk Englishmen I’m reminded why I left in the first place!
 


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