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[Football] Gustavo Poyet
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Link takes me elsewhere. Please remind me who said this and about whom
Krusty
Active member
- Sep 9, 2006
- 622
It was Vicente I think. However the likes of Dicker, Elphick, Bennett and El Abd still talk about how much they loved playing for Gus.
So he’s not going back to Sunderland then. Doesn’t want to go down to the third tier apparently.
BluesRockDJ
Well-known member
- Jan 24, 2020
- 1,299
Tier 3 is the highest threat !!
I knew this story would end in tiers!
He was brilliant at first; one of our best managers ever.
Got us playing delightful football which was a joy to watch, and his early post-match interviews were very entertaining too - he was a real 'character' and a breath of fresh air. His enthusiasm and passion were infectious
However, over time - perhaps flattered too much by all the praise and plaudits - he became arrogant, petulant and surly, and made it clear he was destined for greater things at a bigger club.
In terms of his character and personality, recall how the exuberant and mischievous Jose Mourinho MK I morphed into the surly and miserable Jose Mourinho Mk II
And now the measured yet passionate Mk III. Being top of the league probaby does that....
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Russel Slade brought Elliott in from Wolves.
JamesAndTheGiantHead
Well-known member
How’s young Liam Bridcutt settling in?
The Wookiee
Back From The Dead
Afternoon all. I'm a Sunderland fan, just after your opinions and some information.
It's looking like there's a very good chance that Poyet is about to be announced as our new (old) manager. It's a bit of a coup for a League 1 club in my opinion if it happens. We obviously know him well but, as he's said himself, due to the constraints he was under and the challenges of the Prem compared to the leagues below we never saw the best of him or his football philosophy. Despite some great memories and moments he was never able to get us playing the increyable football he had you playing.
So I'm after some of your memories of how he took on League 1. How he managed the squad he inherited. How long it took before he got you properly effective (presumably his first full season after ensuring your safety after he first arrived)?
A couple of specific points I'm interested in. The first is his use and trust in younger, more inexperienced players. At Sunderland we have a few Academy lads that most believe to be far better than the first team plodders that are getting games ahead of them. It was a source of great frustration for most fans to see our previous manager (Phil Parkinson by the way, I realise L1 is the back of beyond that not many people have any interest in following) filling the squad with senior but limited pros and blocking the progression and pathway for our youth players. Even to the extent that in injury crises he would rather play others out of position than giving youth a chance.
I know this sounds like a typical fan's perspective, over romanticised and ill informed and that the real reason they're not getting a game is because they're not good enough. We're adamant that's not the case. To give you an example, 18 year old Bali Mumba was deemed not good enough by Parkinson and shipped out to South Shields on loan. On his return he was sold to Norwich who will be challenging for promotion in the league above. He's been getting absolutely rave reviews, from fans and media a like, in the performances he's made for them (before a current injury).
For me, with where we find ourselves as a club and under the constraints of the salary cap introduced at this level, establishing a pathway from the Academy is absolutely key and would be on my remit for any incoming manager. I'd hate to hear that Poyet has a similar aversion to Parkinson's.
The other point is whether Gus takes the game to teams at this level. Another frustration with Parkinson is that he always set us out to nullify the opposition rather than take the initiative and play on the front foot. With the resources Sunderland have compared to others at this level many considered that to be unacceptable. Poyet took that approach a lot for us in the Prem but that is acceptable as we were at the other end of the scale. In this league was he more attacking? Was it exciting to watch? Did his team create chances and score goals?
Sorry for the essay. I'm just really intrigued what this next chapter may bring. Any response would be greatly appreciated. Having typed all that he probably won't be appointed and Paul Cook will get the job instead. Ah well, I can always copy and paste on to Wigan's forum.
Not happening according to Sky
https://www.skysports.com/amp/footb...n-as-they-seek-replacement-for-phil-parkinson
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Shame. His ego lets him down again.
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
Why would any chairman want Poyet?
Seasidesage
New member
To answer the OP question. I've seen us promoted a few times from League 1 or its equivalents but I've never gone to an away game in October and came away convinced we were going to win the league! rewind back to Oct 2010 Peterborough 0 - Brighton 3 and it could easily have been 7 or 8 on the back of smashing Charlton a couple of weeks before. Times change and the game has changed but he did that and built a team that almost took us to the PL. He is a good coach, he is also an egotistical manic but he's hardly alone in that in football management
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
What a day that was.
Sheebo
Well-known member
- Jul 13, 2003
- 29,319
You get a lot of out of order comments from some on here imo - almost like as soon as someone leaves, they become shit / suddenly become a target for abuse.
Basically he was loved, charismatic and we played some of the best football ever at the club. Very similar to Potter but in the lower leagues. To beat Southampton to the title that season, after being so poor when he took over, with their superstars was fantastic.
Absolute legend of this club, just a shame it ended slightly sour but it won’t cloud the great times we had for me!
Basically he was loved, charismatic and we played some of the best football ever at the club. Very similar to Potter but in the lower leagues. To beat Southampton to the title that season, after being so poor when he took over, with their superstars was fantastic.
Absolute legend of this club, just a shame it ended slightly sour but it won’t cloud the great times we had for me!
Whitechapel
Famous Last Words
After we smashed Charlton I didn't think I'd ever see a more complete performance from a Brighton team.
A week later, I had. The Peterborough manager had bigged the game up as a cup final beforehand, bet he was f*cking shell-shocked at the end.
Badger Boy
Mr Badger
- Jan 28, 2016
- 3,658
For 3 years we were a brilliant team. We were extraordinary in that League 1 dominating season, every game we went into thinking we would win it. Not play for a draw, not play with a hope for a win - playing to win the game from the start. It was an amazing season to sit back and watch and when things were great, they were perfect. It was always going to go sour but the last few weeks/month of the season don't change the whole Gus experience. It was incredible.
Look up the podcast starring Gus posted by a fan earlier this year - it was amazing how genuinely Gus remembers his time here and how fondly he speaks of Plymouth away in August 2010, all the way through to that Championship Play-Off defeat.
blue-shifted
Banned
Well. We were down the bottom of league 1 when he joined and near the top of the Championship when he left
blue-shifted
Banned
Very well said