Seems a bit harsh. Did the decent thing and offered resignation after play off defeat.
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Seems a bit harsh. Did the decent thing and offered resignation after play off defeat.
I'm not sure 11 games in La Liga classes as 'working' in the league. Even Gary Neville got more games
Oscar Garcia? Winner of two consecutive doubles in Austria and current manager of 4th place in Ligue 1 St Etienne?
Meade's Ball
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A capricious fellow. I won't stare back at him viciously though. We had quite a time together, eh.
Gritt23
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No, football management doesn't work like that. A lack of investment for a time, a bad batch of signings, missing out on key targets, a bad run of injuries to key players. Whatever it is that happens, and probably a combination of things, but a bad run of results comes along and it is an easier solution to change the manager rather than all of the players. With very, very few exceptions, that is what always happens in the end. Easy to look back and say he had a "job for life" but he didn't, and sadly, nor does Chris. It's a brutal business.
Ego. Yeah, played it's part, but we needed that ego to burst through the door when it did. It was that ego, and arrogance which infected the players and made them almost instantly better players when he walked in with us staring at the bottom end of League One. Ultimately, we had two big egos in the club in him and Tony, both of whom I love and have a lot to thank them for, but it's hard to ignore that those egos had explosive possibilities and when that happens there was only ever one winner. Job for life? Nah, they were a cocktail that was always going to blow at some point.
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Very much doubt it. He's seen as part of the Poyet package, and he doesn't strike me as having a reputation that would see him highly sought after as a coach (not to say he's rubbish- I haven't a clue- but he's not somebody talked about as a potential manager as far as I'm aware). Can't imagine clubs will be queuing up to offer him a job in his own right, unless it's for some sort of sentimental connection (i.e. QPR).
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Yes, and winning the First Division at a canter and then taking us in to the upper echelons of the Championship and the playoffs counts for nothing.
sydney
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i think the whole poogate thing really ruined him.....no sense of humour some people.
The same manager who walked out on Maccabi Tel Aviv after two games? Followed up by walking out on Watford after 4 games?. Yep. more unstable than Poyet like i said.
Read post 29. Not harsh at all
W.C.
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My thoughts exactly.
Tel Aviv where there was at the time multiple rocket attacks by Palestinians (July 2014 was one of the worst periods for this in years), or Watford where he was admitted to hospital with a heart problem, then offered his resignation as he was too ill to work every day, as is required of a football manager?
Pretty harsh to label either of those as mental instability frankly.
TottonSeagull
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I think Gus probably thought he had earned enough of the Chinese million and decided time was right to come home with a millions in the bank! For all his faults I will always look back at his time a manager here fondly!
TWOCHOICEStom
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His personality is the reason he was a top player but also his downfall as a manager. Selfish desire to win at the expense of everyone/everything around him. He's happy all the while he's calling the shots and totally destructive when things don't go his way. I always thought Shanghai was a terrible move for him. Imagine those boardroom meetings 
Without Gus though, we could very well have been right up shit creek today. Playing League 1 football in a half empty, unfinished Amex. He was the first step in the transformation of our club. That day we passed our way around Charlton like they weren't there is IMO one of the biggest turning points of our club and it's (almost) all down to Gus.
He's a bit of a nutter and he definitely royally ballsed up at the end of his time here. But that's Gus. I'll always be thankful for what he gave us.. even if he can be a bit of a knobhead.
Without Gus though, we could very well have been right up shit creek today. Playing League 1 football in a half empty, unfinished Amex. He was the first step in the transformation of our club. That day we passed our way around Charlton like they weren't there is IMO one of the biggest turning points of our club and it's (almost) all down to Gus.
He's a bit of a nutter and he definitely royally ballsed up at the end of his time here. But that's Gus. I'll always be thankful for what he gave us.. even if he can be a bit of a knobhead.
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He left Watford because of a heart issue which required time off work. Re-writing this misfortune as mental instability is a bit harsh.
Oh please you are not going to swallow that gaff about rockets are you ? He spent a year there before,
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I think Poyet definitely helped create a real identity for the club, not least on the pitch for a style of play, and I'll always have good memories of much of that period.
It's a real shame, and a bit of a cautionary tale, how he allowed ego to f**k it all up. And while he might not admit it, he will be looking at Hughton leading the team in the Premier League thinking 'that could/should have been me, I royally screwed up there'.
It's a real shame, and a bit of a cautionary tale, how he allowed ego to f**k it all up. And while he might not admit it, he will be looking at Hughton leading the team in the Premier League thinking 'that could/should have been me, I royally screwed up there'.
GreersElbow
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"My pigeons can only fly as high as the ceiling of the bus station, that isn't high enough"
I agree. But his cv of leaving jobs early beats Poyet. Think people forget that.
Yes, he did.
In 2013 a total of 70 rockets or mortars were fired from Palestine in to Israel, source
In July and August 2014 3,839 rockets and mortars were fired from Palestine in to Israel, source
Let's say you have a young family, like Oscar does. Do you A. show mental instability by leaving your football managers job after two games? or B. show right minded thinking by living in a war zone with your young family? Remember you were a professional footballer for arguably the biggest team in the world so you are not short of money.