Gus on talksport Friday @ 7

[MattBackHome]

None of that is evidence, and most of it is plain daft.

Yes it is and no its not.

 

[Buckley's Mad Eye]

I'm happy with Garcia, I suspect much of what Poyet will say on Friday will be self-promotion and probably some shit on the club. I hope the club's lawyers are aware that he is going on the radio......perhaps a pm to insider would be in order as they seemed to miss his TV appearance a couple of weeks ago

 

[The Large One]

Yes it is and no its not.

Really?

I mean, REALLY?

 

[ROSM]

Yes it is and no its not.

Well apart from non attendance not being on legal grounds but as was accused, due to the club not following their own internal procedures?

And it being the lma not the pfa?

Him not actually defending himself on tv - his accusations havnt been given to him on tv so how can he have been defending himself?

Its your opinion and you are entitled to that. But its not correct to state that as fact

 

[The Large One]

All of the clubs statements.

Which statements about Gus' guilt are you specifically referring to?

GP refusing to attend disciplinary on legal grounds

The LMA made it clear their reasons for not attending. Are you being selective as to how or why their statement is not truthful?

GPs shambolic defense live on TV

What's that got to do with the charge sheet, or any form of evidence?

GP not taking legal action despite threatening over 3 weeks ago

Do you know how long these things take? Thought not. You do recall the club took over four weeks to bring the case to a hearing.

Radio silence from PFA since backing their man at the same time.

So the club is silent, and that's OK - but the PFA's silence (who have nothing to do with this) isn't?

GP not coming clean with what he has been accused of.

Nor has the club.


Talk about lack of perspective. As I said, none of what you have said is evidence. It could be that Gus is guilty as charged - who knows? - but you can't ascertain that from your sideshow observations.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

All of the clubs statements.
GP refusing to attend disciplinary on legal grounds - not true at all. His representatives stated that the club didn't give enough notice of the meeting. The club deny it. 50 / 50 and you've taken the clubs word.
GPs shambolic defense live on TV - he was very brief and non-committal, nobody would speak out on TV in his situation for risk of corrupting the process
GP not taking legal action despite threatening over 3 weeks ago - have you ever built a legal case ? It takes a LONG time !!!!
Radio silence from PFA since backing their man at the same time. - what have the PFA got to do with it ?
GP not coming clean with what he has been accused of. - and likewise the club not coming clean.

I really hope you never have done jury service ( or never have to ) if that's how you consider "evidence".

 

[keaton]

1-All of the clubs statements.
2-GP refusing to attend disciplinary on legal grounds
3-GPs shambolic defense live on TV
4-GP not taking legal action despite threatening over 3 weeks ago
5- Radio silence from PFA since backing their man at the same time.
6- GP not coming clean with what he has been accused of.

1- You'll really have to be more specific, you don't mean all the club statements.
2- That doesn't infer guilt in the slightest, unless you've already made your mind up
3 - That didn't happen
4 - There are a lot of reasons why he might not have taken legal action yet, probably only a few relate to his guilt
5 - Not relevant
6- The club haven't 'come clean' about what he was sacked for, why do you not assume that's evidence they're in the wrong

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

All of the clubs statements.
GP refusing to attend disciplinary on legal grounds
GPs shambolic defense live on TV
GP not taking legal action despite threatening over 3 weeks ago
Radio silence from PFA since backing their man at the same time.
GP not coming clean with what he has been accused of.

I going to take a stab in the dark here but, if you think that is "evidence" then I'm guessing you're not a barrister.

 

[KingstonSeagull]

They'll put anyone on that tripe...

 

[glasfryn]

most so called evidence we have seen on here is from those supposedly ITK or second hand from someone who knows someone who is at the club
its not evidence its b*****Ks the sort of stuff they used as evidence to burn witches and get people hung in the middle ages.

when you get to my age you you begin to TRUST nobody ... THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES

 

[Mellotron]

It’s certainly not complete.

But every single bit of evidence that IS available suggests very strongly that; Gus did something malicious/idiotic/both, got caught and was dealt with by the club in a reasonable way that followed due process.

The point is that I understand people saying "You can't judge Gus until you know all the facts", and I agree to an extent; but when all the available information points to his guilt then it's reasonable to assume he's guilty.

I haven't heard anything from Gus that makes me think he was hard done by.

For me everyone is looking too far along the line though. The point is WHY did Gus do these things? Was it because he was in a business relationship that was completely unworkable? Who's fault is it that it was unworkable?

For me the above is FAR more important than the end game rumours, especially for the future of this club.

 

[ozzygull]

I really think it is time to move on. Gus was great but he is gone and I think it was the correct time for him to go. I don't think another season of will he stay, will he go, every time there was a job available would have been good for the team anyway. For me Oscar seems to have all the good things that Gus provided, without the bad. From the games I have seen the good football is still there, but the moaning about the ref and budgets have gone. Also for a season at least, he will not be link with every bloody job going. The players know who there boss is and will feel settled that he is going to be here for a while, I don't think they would have got that with Gus.

Whoever is right or wrong, for the club I think the correct decision was made.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I really think it is time to move on. Gus was great but he is gone and I think it was the correct time for him to go. I don't think another season of will he stay, will he go, every time there was a job available would have been good for the team anyway. For me Oscar seems to have all the good things that Gus provided, without the bad. From the games I have seen the good football is still there, but the moaning about the ref and budgets have gone. Also for a season at least, he will not be link with every bloody job going. The players know who there boss is and will feel settled that he is going to be here for a while, I don't think they would have got that with Gus.

Whoever is right or wrong, for the club I think the correct decision was made.

I Oscar is successful and let's hope he is., there wI'll be rumours of him going elsewhere its footballs way.. although perhaps not being generated by any statement made by the man himself

 

[albionite]

most so called evidence we have seen on here is from those supposedly ITK or second hand from someone who knows someone who is at the club
its not evidence its b*****Ks the sort of stuff they used as evidence to burn witches and get people hung in the middle ages.

when you get to my age you you begin to TRUST nobody ... THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES

This pretty much sums it up. I've heard from a few sources from within the club to what has happened regarding Gus and Charlie(both unrelated to why they have gone) and they seem to back each other up but doesn't mean what they told me is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Just my wishful thinking that it is true and Gus is in the wrong.

 

[KingstonSeagull]

Oscar seems to have a cooler head than Gus, whether or not that is a good thing.. I don't know

 

[B.W.]

I'm presuming nothing.

It's you who is presuming 100% Gus' guilt without knowing ALL the facts.

I know enough.

 

[B.W.]

And you called TLO presumptuous !!!!! How can you say that without ALL the facts ?

I know what Gus did.

 

[B.W.]

Being party to a piece of scuttlebutt in April is not the same as 'knowing all the facts'. It is the same, however, as being told one side of the story.

Do carry on with you self-delusion. You wear it so well.

 

[B.W.]

Indeed - the club, Gus, the LMA and a few lawyers - nobody on here though !

Are you sure?

 

[itszamora]

I know what Gus did.

If it's definitely true, why not post it?