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[TV] Greta Thunberg: A year to change the world



Herr Tubthumper

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I’ll leave this here.


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So you said, 2 hours earlier. :lolol:

This is too easy, and boring. I’ll show you what self-control is and will leave this here.
 




BN41Albion

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Oct 1, 2017
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If being labelled an 'oddball' in an obscure football forum is the worst of her life's issues then she is blessed indeed.

Unfortunately that's not the case though.
As mentioned on the documentary, there's plenty of imbeciles with views such as Baker Lite who are hell bent on vitriol for some utterly bizarre reason towards a teenager passionate about the earth and our future and trying to get those who have real power to actually do something about it, many who take it further than extremely immature name-calling etc by sending death threats to her and her family, etc.
 


BBassic

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Jul 28, 2011
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Unfortunately that's not the case though.
As mentioned on the documentary, there's plenty of imbeciles with views such as Baker Lite who are hell bent on vitriol for some utterly bizarre reason towards a teenager passionate about the earth and our future and trying to get those who have real power to actually do something about it, many who take it further than extremely immature name-calling etc by sending death threats to her and her family, etc.

This.

Doesn't help when one of those imbeciles was in charge of the most powerful country on Earth for four years and rather than using his power to engage and help he decided to insult her. On Twitter. For some reason.
 




BN41Albion

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This.

Doesn't help when one of those imbeciles was in charge of the most powerful country on Earth for four years and rather than using his power to engage and help he decided to insult her. On Twitter. For some reason.

Yep. It was entirely predictable that Trump would act in that way though. Also giving the go-ahead to his sheep to do the same, too.
 






SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
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People should relax. We'll end up killing off ourselves before we kill the planet.
 








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Had to double take to see if this was a parody account. Troubling that you genuinely seem to hold these views.

What we are experiencing now is anthropogenic climate change. It is not part of a natural cycle of global warming like you suggest. And it will be a catastrophe.

We could go on to explain why it will be a catastrophe, but I suspect you already know why, but for whatever reason you refuse to believe it.

I find it comforting to see, on this thread, the only people getting pelters for dick-headery are on my little list ???
 


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Because Greta doesn’t treat her Asperger’s as something she suffers from but, to quote her, it’s her ‘super-power’.

One of my final years students has exactly the same view of her situation. And she wrote the most insightful and nuanced bit of coursework of the lot, a month ago.

Luckily it is against the law to disenfrachise and mock people 'on the spectrum' in the UK, now (although it takes time for the realization to penetrate all sectors of society). Listening to the radio today about 'Neighbours', in some parts of the world even casual racism in the workplace is still rife.

Albeit, there are still some in the UK who think that not acting like a **** 24/7 is the definition of a woke snowflake :shrug: Keep telling it like it really is, lads :thumbsup: :lolol:
 




Nixonator

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The world is ducked. It was ducked by humans. We will be ducked with it therefore. And you can’t say we weren’t warned. Billions will die, but if that’s what it takes then that can only be a good thing for the planets future. Those born this year or later, I cannot imagine the misery having to contend with because of climate change towards end of lives. As for their children,OMG! But first will come the wars over diminishing resources. The plagues, well they’re already coming thick and fast out of destroyed ecosystems. Anyway, in Sport tonight....

There has never been a better time to be alive in the history of our species on just about every opportunity and quality of life metric you wish to visit.

I'm only 30 but I think I would prefer to be born now amidst the climate war on baby boomers, than conscripted to fight against a tyrannical regime with a wooden gun and a chocolate bourbon every other week until my legs were blown off.
 


portlock seagull

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There has never been a better time to be alive in the history of our species on just about every opportunity and quality of life metric you wish to visit.

I'm only 30 but I think I would prefer to be born now amidst the climate war on baby boomers, than conscripted to fight against a tyrannical regime with a wooden gun and a chocolate bourbon every other week until my legs were blown off.

Except not talking about now...we’re talking about the world to come. Fast forward to 2080,90 and there may not be a worse time to be alive. That’s what we’re debating, not whether you ended up on the end of a bayonet last century. Besides, Mother Nature pisses all over Hitler, Stalin and co when it comes to having enemies.
 


StonehamPark

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Oct 30, 2010
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It's just baffling that in 2021, there's still total and absolute idiocy and ignorance from some people regarding global warming.

The affects are tangible and measurable.
The peer-reviewed studies and reports are open source and free to read.
The consensus among scientists is over 95% worldwide, that humans are greatly accelerating climate change.

And yet there are still people who deny it - and I guarantee these people have not read any of the peer reviewed studies (either side) or conducted their own research, or put forward their own hypothesis.

It seems to purely be a vitriolic political stance. Just plain ignorance, which they are happy to display for the world to see.

On the same level as flat-earthers.
 




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There has never been a better time to be alive in the history of our species on just about every opportunity and quality of life metric you wish to visit.

I'm only 30 but I think I would prefer to be born now amidst the climate war on baby boomers, than conscripted to fight against a tyrannical regime with a wooden gun and a chocolate bourbon every other week until my legs were blown off.

Well said. I'm 63, nearly, and agree. Victor Meldrew can **** off.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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It's just baffling that in 2021, there's still total and absolute idiocy and ignorance from some people regarding global warming.

The affects are tangible and measurable.
The peer-reviewed studies and reports are open source and free to read.
The consensus among scientists is over 95% worldwide, that humans are greatly accelerating climate change.

using which model though? bit awkward to claim consensus where there are so many models and variables involved.
 


pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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See a few people bringing up the world over population myth. This is total nonsense. The entire population of the world could fit into Texas.

When you fly on an aeroplane how populated does the land look from the sky?

Yes that's correct its a tiny tiny amount.

If the argument is food scarcity then rich society throws away more food than would be needed to happily feed the rest if the world.

The big issue is that human selfishness imposes our discarded crap on other elements of our ecosystem driven almost entirely by capitalist greed.



The subject of over-population is not a myth though even if some are desperate to peg it as one.
It is a concerning issue in its own right.
Some people are taking it very seriously and not dismissing it.


“All our environmental problems become easier to solve with fewer people, and harder and ultimately impossible to solve with ever more people.”
– Sir David Attenborough, Population Matters patron



`Human population has grown beyond Earth's sustainable means. We are consuming more resources than our planet can regenerate, with devastating consequences.

It took humanity 200,000 years to reach one billion and only 200 years to reach seven billion. We are still adding an extra 80 million each year and are headed towards 10 billion by mid-century.

More people inevitably put more demands on the planet. More people require more food, water, sanitation, homes, public services, and amenities – but our Earth is struggling to cope. Populations of wild species have plummeted, global temperatures are rising, our seas are full of plastic and forests are disappearing.

Humans are directly responsible for the sixth mass extinction and the climate crisis, the most serious environmental threats our planet has ever faced.

In the rich world, we consume at astronomical and unsustainable levels. That cannot continue, and we must change our behaviour. Today, a child born in the US will produce 24 times more consumption carbon emissions per year than one born in Nigeria.

Addressing how people consume is not enough, however. We are already using the resources of more than one-and-a-half planets. Everyone has the right to a good quality of life and with increasing global affluence, the collective impact of billions more of us will increase even further. This is why we cannot ignore population.`

https://populationmatters.org/the-i..._Mh9jKn3bbnfr_AnQivlETwdHBP4dIpQaAuwiEALw_wcB
 




pastafarian

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Plenty of 'oddballs' from the past were quite influential in world history - Einstein, Newton, Tesla, Mozart, Darwin, Michelangelo to name just a few. Perhaps we should ignore what they had to say too?

Billions of people still ignore what Darwin had to say unfortunately :)
 


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She probably will learn - but we need to remember that most of the time she's speaking in her second language. I've given a few speeches in French in my younger days, and even though I considered myself fairly fluent at the time, they were rather wooden! She also has Asperger's which may account partly for the way she speaks (I'm afraid I don't know enough about the condition). She's also only 18!! I think we need to cut her some slack :)

For sure.
 


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