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[Film] Greatest sci fi films







Sid and the Sharknados

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Erm why does it have to have those things? 1984, Brave new world, Jurassic Park.... None of that in those. Science fiction is about how humanity or society is affected by or changes/reacts to science and technology - it can include lasers and space ships and robots but star wars is just a fun fantasy setting where normal rules of the universe do not apply.
You seem to have confused "loads of space flight and laser battles and people waffling on about parsecs make it science fiction" with "science fiction has to have loads of space flight and laser battles and people waffling on about parsecs". There was no exclusivity there.

Also, I'm pretty sure the idea of the entire galaxy being run by a Republic using faster than light travel and then being overthrown by an Emperor relying on technology and cloned soldiers to overcome an order based on more "natural" powers is a reflection on how humanity would deal with such things. The space wizard stuff is just kind of there in the first film before they start blathering on about midiclorians and prophecies in the prequels.

And I'm pretty sure there's no reason why something can't be sci fi and fantasy at the same time. The distinction often comes down to what a person's prepared to admit to liking anyway.
 


SkirlieWirlie

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You seem to have confused "loads of space flight and laser battles and people waffling on about parsecs make it science fiction" with "science fiction has to have loads of space flight and laser battles and people waffling on about parsecs". There was no exclusivity there.

Also, I'm pretty sure the idea of the entire galaxy being run by a Republic using faster than light travel and then being overthrown by an Emperor relying on technology and cloned soldiers to overcome an order based on more "natural" powers is a reflection on how humanity would deal with such things. The space wizard stuff is just kind of there in the first film before they start blathering on about midiclorians and prophecies in the prequels.

And I'm pretty sure there's no reason why something can't be sci fi and fantasy at the same time. The distinction often comes down to what a person's prepared to admit to liking anyway.

Yep.

And with regards the definition of fiction : literature in the form of prose that describes imaginary events and people / something that is invented or untrue.

So, "normal rules of the universe, etc .." don't have to apply. It's often made up fantasy based on our current understanding of the universe and laws of physics.
 
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Goldstone1976

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…And I'm pretty sure there's no reason why something can't be sci fi and fantasy at the same time. The distinction often comes down to what a person's prepared to admit to liking anyway.
Now don’t get me started.

And then you have Space Opera, Cyber Punk, Steam Punk, Dystopian Fiction, Alternate History, Parallel Universes, Solar Punk, Dying Earth, Generation Ship, as well as the classic Hard Sci Fi, and more recent Soft Sci Fi; and that’s without even really thinking about it.

Classic Hard Sci Fi is my natural home, but I really like many, many examples of all the preceding list.

Fantasy though? That’s shit. 😉
 


American Seagle

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You seem to have confused "loads of space flight and laser battles and people waffling on about parsecs make it science fiction" with "science fiction has to have loads of space flight and laser battles and people waffling on about parsecs". There was no exclusivity there.

Also, I'm pretty sure the idea of the entire galaxy being run by a Republic using faster than light travel and then being overthrown by an Emperor relying on technology and cloned soldiers to overcome an order based on more "natural" powers is a reflection on how humanity would deal with such things. The space wizard stuff is just kind of there in the first film before they start blathering on about midiclorians and prophecies in the prequels.

And I'm pretty sure there's no reason why something can't be sci fi and fantasy at the same time. The distinction often comes down to what a person's prepared to admit to liking anyway.
You could argue it's fantasy science fiction but it's main genre is definitely fantasy.
 






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Watched 'Interstellar' again off of the back of this thread.

Over reliant on the soundtrack and spectacle.

I don't dislike it, I just don't think it's as extraordinary as a lot of people seem to.

Bit like Avatar.
 








Uncle Spielberg

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Not by me.

I reckon it's a lot better than it actually is.

I prefer it to 'Interstallar' by a significant margin.
Fincher did a great job with alien 3 imo
 










HyperTony

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Watched 'Interstellar' again off of the back of this thread.

Over reliant on the soundtrack and spectacle.

I don't dislike it, I just don't think it's as extraordinary as a lot of people seem to.

Bit like Avatar.

It's a film of moments, beautiful moments but unlike 2001, it doesn't have that special something. I think the best sci-fi has menace, anti-hero or malevolent presence.
Although Branagh wasn't totally believable i preferred Tenet to Interstellar.
 




Jul 20, 2003
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It's a film of moments, beautiful moments but unlike 2001, it doesn't have that special something. I think the best sci-fi has menace, anti-hero or malevolent presence.
Although Branagh wasn't totally believable i preferred Tenet to Interstellar.
Yes!

That's it!

No dread, no apprehension, no feeling of peril.


Might have to give Tenet another go as well. Didn't like that much, but didn't see it in the cinema.
 


Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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Yes!

That's it!

No dread, no apprehension, no feeling of peril.


Might have to give Tenet another go as well. Didn't like that much, but didn't see it in the cinema.
Never understood the appeal of Christopher Nolan, all of the films of his I've seen have bored me shitless. Maybe I'm just too thick for his much lauded output, but the numerous one star reviews for Interstellar on IMDb at least tell me I'm not alone.
 


HyperTony

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Like music, i think what movies you enjoy is a very personal thing. Critics or aficionados who claim, if you don't like this then you're not clever enough are frankly talking out their arse. Most of Nolans films look and sound amazing but i think lack something, depth, soul, presence dunno. Dunkirk (is that right?), i think is very good though.
 


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