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[Albion] Graham Potter



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Icy Gull said:
Daft and usual slagging off. Without the the mindset and abilities of the players honed by Potter, I doubt De Zerbi would have taken the job and we would certainly not have seen the season we’ve just had. Your anti Potter stance is pretty clueless and unpleasant imo :shrug:

He laid the basis for the season we have just seen. Yes De Zerbi is a better manager but that doesn’t mean Potter is the dull devil incarnate that you keep promoting
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Have to agree re Potter.

Potter did a great job, but benefited from the defensive stability of Hughton. He then however, took it a stage further, some great football, a completely different approach and made it work. Not an easy thing to do, and needed the time he was given.

RdZ then benefited from Potter and then took it on again. It really is football evolution, but this time rather than a step, we’ve taken a Beamon like leap.

But full credit to Potter for changing the mindset.
 






Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Icy Gull said:
Daft and usual slagging off. Without the the mindset and abilities of the players honed by Potter, I doubt De Zerbi would have taken the job and we would certainly not have seen the season we’ve just had. Your anti Potter stance is pretty clueless and unpleasant imo :shrug:

He laid the basis for the season we have just seen. Yes De Zerbi is a better manager but that doesn’t mean Potter is the dull devil incarnate that you keep promoting
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Why are you spouting that nonsense? Potter 'honed' nothing in these players. If anything he held many of them back. And in the case of Solly March, it took RDZ to instill a modicum of self-confidence into the player, thereby transforming him into the very valuable asset that we saw post-Potter
 








Silverhatch

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Levy should be all over Potter. There’s a club that needs a reboot - especially when Kane fucks off. Potter will have learnt a lot about big club dressing rooms at Clearlake Chargers.
 


Weststander

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Tom Hark Preston Park said:
Why are you spouting that nonsense? Potter 'honed' nothing in these players. If anything he held many of them back. And in the case of Solly March, it took RDZ to instill a modicum of self-confidence into the player, thereby transforming him into the very valuable asset that we saw post-Potter
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RDZ absolutely was the one who unlocked the attacking brilliance in Solly. In a modest way, he’s touched on it. He made Solly truly believe.
 


Icy Gull

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Tom Hark Preston Park said:
Why are you spouting that nonsense? Potter 'honed' nothing in these players. If anything he held many of them back. And in the case of Solly March, it took RDZ to instill a modicum of self-confidence into the player, thereby transforming him into the very valuable asset that we saw post-Potter
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Pointless entering into an argument with you about Potter. You never rated him and have never given him any credit for anything, slagging him off in every post you make about him. That to me is spouting nonsense. Shall we leave it there and just agree we don’t agree about him in any way?
 












Super Steve Earle

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Icy Gull said:
Daft and usual slagging off. Without the the mindset and abilities of the players honed by Potter, I doubt De Zerbi would have taken the job and we would certainly not have seen the season we’ve just had. Your anti Potter stance is pretty clueless and unpleasant imo :shrug:

He laid the basis for the season we have just seen. Yes De Zerbi is a better manager but that doesn’t mean Potter is the dull devil incarnate that you keep promoting
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I loved the job Potter was doing before he left, but my wife was bored senseless by his football and wanted to give up her season ticket after 25 odd years. I thought it was the end of the world when he left, so I rated him highly. But RDZ clearly changed the Potter mindset and re honed the abilities of the players Potter left behind. March and Gross became inspired by RDZ to produce career defining football. Of the players honed by Potter, only 4 of the 11 who started the season against Man Utd played against Villa at the weekend. You are right that without the points under Potter last season, RDZ might have seen less appeal in the Albion but you can't give any credit to Potter for what RDZ has done this season. He has revolutionised the outlook, raised the bar to the point of throwing it out the window and revitalised every aspect of the club. I'm sorry, but I cannot envisage Potter pushing on in points or mesmerising football to win hearts and minds of everybody including neutrals the way RDZ has. Potter became a supercharged Hughton and RDZ a supercharged Potter.
 


Icy Gull

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Super Steve Earle said:
I loved the job Potter was doing before he left, but my wife was bored senseless by his football and wanted to give up her season ticket after 25 odd years. I thought it was the end of the world when he left, so I rated him highly. But RDZ clearly changed the Potter mindset and re honed the abilities of the players Potter left behind. March and Gross became inspired by RDZ to produce career defining football. Of the players honed by Potter, only 4 of the 11 who started the season against Man Utd played against Villa at the weekend. You are right that without the points under Potter last season, RDZ might have seen less appeal in the Albion but you can't give any credit to Potter for what RDZ has done this season. He has revolutionised the outlook, raised the bar to the point of throwing it out the window and revitalised every aspect of the club. I'm sorry, but I cannot envisage Potter pushing on in points or mesmerising football to win hearts and minds of everybody including neutrals the way RDZ has. Potter became a supercharged Hughton and RDZ a supercharged Potter.
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The credit I am giving him is that the players were comfortable on the ball and able to play in a style that RDZ has tweeked big time. That gave RDZ the ability to hit the ground running with the style he implemented. I am thrilled with how we play but Potter’s legacy has certainly helped, in fact surely it’s blindingly obvious isn’t it?
 


Barnet Seagull

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Potter did an amazing job in creating a intelligent, coachable, disciplined squad with good tactical awareness and positioning. Potter's only real negative has always been execution in transition, in that the pace of getting the ball forward was often too slow and opportunities were spurned. This led to lots of chances but lots they were low quality - hence the XG issue. This was the most frustrating aspect of his tenure for me (and I've consistently bigged up his coaching but bemoaned the speed of transition) because you could see that 90% of what was coached was superb. At the start of this season, this team was a tactically fluid, and extremely well drilled side which was as well coached as I've EVER seen a team.
 




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Barnet Seagull said:
Potter did an amazing job in creating a intelligent, coachable, disciplined squad with good tactical awareness and positioning. Potter's only real negative has always been execution in transition, in that the pace of getting the ball forward was often too slow and opportunities were spurned. This led to lots of chances but lots they were low quality - hence the XG issue. This was the most frustrating aspect of his tenure for me (and I've consistently bigged up his coaching but bemoaned the speed of transition) because you could see that 90% of what was coached was superb. At the start of this season, this team was a tactically fluid, and extremely well drilled side which was as well coached as I've EVER seen a team.
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What advice would you give him as to how he could improve and get better results as a coach?
 


Guinness Boy

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Barnet Seagull said:
Potter did an amazing job in creating an intelligent, coachable, disciplined squad with good tactical awareness and positioning. Potter's only real negative has always been execution in transition, in that the pace of getting the ball forward was often too slow and opportunities were spurned. This led to lots of chances but lots they were low quality - hence the XG issue. This was the most frustrating aspect of his tenure for me (and I've consistently bigged up his coaching but bemoaned the speed of transition) because you could see that 90% of what was coached was superb. At the start of this season, this team was a tactically fluid, and extremely well drilled side which was as well coached as I've EVER seen a team.
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Chelsea’s xG has underachieved massively this season. One example:



The slow progress up the pitch, the need to walk it in. It’s what makes Potter a fairly average coach. His teams look good but don’t deliver, unless you take your stat sample as only between April 2022 and September 2022.
 










BadFish

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Palace employing a more expansive and possession based coach. What could go wrong?

Roy won't be fully relaxing into his retirement just yet.
 


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